Talk:felan

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RFV discussion: December 2019–March 2020[edit]

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Old English felan alt form of fēolan; geondfelan; feolan etymology 2

(Notifying Leasnam, Lambiam, Urszag, Hundwine): These entries are based on Bosworth-Toller, which seems to have made a total mess of these verbs. Per Wright's grammar, there's only one verb fēolan, which is an irregular strong class 3 verb conjugated as fealh, fǣlon/fulgon/fūlon, folgen/fōlen. This is what I've listed as Etymology 1, from *felhaną. I don't think Etymology 2 is distinct, and I don't think the putative etymon *felganą exists, nor Bosworth-Toller's supposed Old English verb felgan. Nor do I think felan exists; it's not in Wright, or Köbler, or Clark-Hall, and even the supplement of Bosworth-Toller tries to correct this somewhat by saying the examples for felgan (which are all past tense) should be taken under fēolan, and fēolan should be conjugated more like how Wright has it. Similarly, ġeondfelan/ġeondfeolan should actually be ġeondfēolan, a derivative of fēolan. Bosworth-Toller's supplement agrees, saying that ġeondfelan with past participle ġeondfolen should be replaced with ġeondfēolan past participle ġeondfōlen. Benwing2 (talk) 02:17, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]