Talk:grog

False reference

Eight and a half years ago user Pingku made an edit claiming a reference that didn't exist:

https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=grog&diff=next&oldid=11570071

According to him the linked reference supported that Catalan was the etymological origin or grog, but if you visit the link these are the data about grog provided:

When I first began making pots, I was naturally curious about the new words I was learning - words which didn't seem to make much sense. Until then, I had thought grog was a rum drink, slip was something 'twixt the cup and the lip, and I wondered why on earth wheel work was called throwing. Since I had the skills in etymology to answer these questions myself, I eventually got around to doing just that.

Four words whose origins are unknown, but which are probably quite old, are to wedge, bat, grog, and saggar. Their monosyllabic forms would seem to indicate Anglo-Saxon roots, but no evidence exists to prove that one way or the other. Even the Oxford English Dictionary sheds no light on their derivation.

Grog. As used by potters, grog must be a figment of our imaginations because it is not listed in any of the major dictionaries I consulted. (It is found in An Illustrated Dictionary of Ceramics.) The Oxford English Dictionary lists only the meaning for the rum drink. Perhaps if potters who read this would send sharp letters of protest to the editors of Random House, Oxford English, and other dictionaries, this deplorable situation could be corrected.

And this is all the information about grog. Absolutely NOTHING at all about etymology. No information on it. Nothing about Catalan language.

So, I've decided to remove this link, as it provides no information at all and, also, remove the unsupported theory about the Catalan origin of the word, that seems to have been spreading from this wiktionary to the internet, disinforming people for years.

--77.75.179.1 (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

n-water grog

John Camden Hotten's Slang Dictionary (1873) mentions "six-water grog, a sea-term for the weakest grog possible—six portions of water to one of rum". It seems that this phrase was also used with various other numbers, e.g. "three-water grog". Equinox ◑ 06:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done Added in a usage note here. Equinox ◑ 11:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Grognard

I think, we should add a link to the »grognard« page as a separate etymology, but I'm not sure how to do that properly. Would somebody do this or guide me? It would be appreciated.

Multicus (talk) 05:32, 23 October 2023 (UTC)