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- I wrote the second definition you mention back in 2007, originally as a citation to the first def'n. Later on, somebody has separated and edited the citation to make a second, redundant definition. I deleted the rfv'ed definition and edited the remaining one on the basis of related Wikipedia articles. --Hekaheka 17:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)