Talk:jabło

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RFV discussion: November 2022–November 2023[edit]

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Old Polish. Not in SSp and doesn't even appear in any Middle Polish dictionary.

All derived terms in Old Polish come from jabłko, not jabło. The only mention of this word being Old Polish is SJP1900, which does not source it's reference. Vininn126 (talk) 23:14, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Almost certain that one's wrong. It's also mentioned in Krasnowolski and Niedźwiedzki's Słownik staropolski, which lists just about any word that fell out of usage as "Old Polish" (charitably speaking, it has different criteria than ours). Probably an addition guided by that dictionary. If it's not in SStp, I don't know where else. Hythonia (talk) 10:10, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Source: Trubachyov, Oleg, editor (1974), “*ablo”, in Этимологический словарь славянских языков [Etymological dictionary of Slavic languages] (in Russian), numbers 1 (*a – *besědьlivъ), Moscow: Nauka, page 41 --ZomBear (talk) 22:44, 30 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
    • @ZomBear ESSJa is not a good source here. I usually believe ESSJa but Sławski stated that the only dictionary that mentions this word does not give the primary source. But I would keep it as word is attested in Slovincian and Old Czech. Sławobóg (talk) 23:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
      • @Sławobóg I'm not a fan of adding such words just because their supposed ancestors have descendants in other languages. Proto-Slavic *kradějь for example has a Slovincian descendant, but Polish kradziej was first attested only in the nineteenth century. We have a mention in ESSJa, but I'd like to see an actual Old Polish citation. Hythonia (talk) 10:39, 2 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Vininn126 The entry hasn't been cited for nearly a year; shall we close this RFV, or are we clubbing together for a birthday cake? Hythonia (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
RFV failed. Perhaps this would stand up as a reconstruction. Vininn126 (talk) 15:49, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply