Talk:lợp

Etymological connection with Sinitic?

@PhanAnh123, Erminwin This word phonetically and semantically resembles Cantonese 笠 (lap1, “to cover with”) (see 笠#Etymology_2). RcAlex36 (talk) 09:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

@RcAlex36: Thanks for spotting the resemblance. Assuming Cantonese word's MC ancestor 笠 (MC lip) had been borrowed early into Vietnamese, it could result in V. lợp; one example of (on top of my head) EMCh. *-i- > V. -ơ-, see 匹 (MC phjit) > V. thớt (“classifier for some animals, mostly horses & elephants”));

Meanwhile, 笠 (OC *ɡ·rɯb (ZS) / *k.rəp (B&S)) reminds me of V. rợp (“to overshadow”); however, OCh. *K[.]r- developed into mostly V. s- or k-/c- (/k/) or g-. Erminwin (talk) 12:18, 12 August 2024 (UTC)