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Numerous redundant senses. --Connel MacKenzie 18:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I largely agree, but don't see how sense 5 is the same as any of the others. --EncycloPetey 23:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Looking more closely at the definition of #5, I'm tempted to agree. It could use an actual example though, instead of the def #3 example given for it (which threw me off.) --Connel MacKenzie 05:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
How about this one?
  • 1849Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience
    If we were left solely to the wordy wit of legislators in Congress for our guidance, uncorrected by the seasonable experience and the effectual complaints of the people, America would not long retain her rank among the nations.
This sense certainly has nothing to do with sanity or ability to think. --EncycloPetey 05:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The first 4 senses are certainly similar. The problem is that 1 is now only plural, and 2 and 4 (which are the easiest to merge) sound more archaic than 3. 5 and 6 are, I think, definitely separate. Btw Connel, there is nothing rare or colloquial about sense 6, at least in the UK. Widsith 16:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone needs to clean up based on the above discussion, remove RFC when it is done. - [The]DaveRoss 21:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)