Template talk:IPAchar

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Please add more such are available at special:Allpages/template:! and / or at category:Script templates. Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 17:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

It seams that not all Indic scripts and the scripts from India are not represented all here. See also ISO-15924 and betawiki:category:ISO-15924. Regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 18:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

There isn't any particular reason why this list should be here at all, and it is out of date. Just look at the category. Robert Ullmann 15:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

IPA fonts template[edit]

Removing the IPA font list is making the Arabic transliterations look bad. Exotic letters do not appear to be the same size as the common letters: máʂʂara, ṭaħṭ, ʈálib invalid IPA characters (ṭṭ). I don’t see what use the new template has. It doesn’t seem to be any better than nothing at all. —Stephen 03:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, they look OK in Safari (Mac OS X). --EncycloPetey 03:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Not in Firefox WinXP Pro. —Stephen 03:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Agreed/same here. And, this doesn't seem to have been discussed anywhere? —RuakhTALK 11:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Now I see that my Russian font template (Template:Cyrl) has fallen the same way. All of the Russian declension boxes contain acute accents, and now the accent appears very high and off to the right of the letter it’s over: ска́т. It’s exactly the same as without any template at all: ска́т. If these templates are left crippled, they may as well be deleted altogether, since they no longer have any effect that I can discern. —Stephen 16:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I thought somebody was going to fix this font problem in CSS (or whatever it’s called). Since IPAchar was denuded, it no longer has any effect, so that ɛr-ɛ́f is the same as ɛr-ɛ́f (both virtually illegible for me). If we’re not going to fix this in CSS (or wherever it is), we should reinstate the font package for IPAchar so that IPA symbols and other more exotic Roman elements can be read by most people. Otherwise, I think we’ll need to devise new ways to transliterate most Arabic and some Russian sounds so that we do not use any of the IPA symbols. —Stephen 06:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree. IPAs have been looking very weird for me too (and I'm on Firefox). Widsith 06:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
It was "fixed" in CSS, but not in a way that's useful: some hackery was used to make it work only in IE6, under the theory that better browsers don't need these hints. I don't know who formulated this theory, but clearly they didn't bother comparing it with reality. I've now removed the hackery; if you hard-refresh, it should work now (at least, for me it does). —RuakhTALK 12:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, ɛr-ɛ́f once again appears correctly. Thanks. —Stephen 04:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
The reason this theory is sound is that it worked for me :). Of all the fonts below, I've no idea why we list so many btw, only Deja-vu sans renders IPA without serifs - as it should be on Wiktioanry, where everything is sans-serifed. However, I only have three of the fonts, Gentium = GentiumAlt = Charis SIL = Doulos SIL, while all the others render in the same as Arial Unicode MS. How much objection would there be to me putting DejaVu sans to the top? On a second note, what on earth is the 110% for - it is required only for 1 font of the 10 listed. We should just remove that font from the list. Conrad.Irwin 20:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
  • No CSS: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Gentium: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • GentiumAlt: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Arial Unicode MS: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Code2000: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • DejaVu Sans: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Segoe UI: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Lucida Grande: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Charis SIL: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Doulos SIL: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • TITUS Cyberbit Basic: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
  • Lucida Sans Unicode: pɹəˌnʌnsiˈeɪʃən
I don’t see 110% anywhere. It doesn’t matter much to me about DejaVu Sans. On my screen, it appears to be a serif font with a very small x-height, but it is still legible. I don’t understand which font you want to remove from the list, or why you want to remove it. —Stephen 20:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistent use[edit]

I noticed that this template is used inconsistently with transliterations, rather than with IPA notation, as in the article ي. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 20:34, 18 November 2013 (UTC)