Template talk:dative of

RFD discussion: May–June 2023

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{{dative of}}, {{dative plural of}}, {{genitive of}}, {{genitive plural of}}, {{genitive singular of}}

I'd like to clean up Category:Form-of templates and remove the redlinks/delete unecessary ones. This would include the ones in the title. Vininn126 (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Delete all. — Fenakhay ^{(حيطي · مساهماتي)} 14:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

• Am I right in understanding that the proposal is to use e.g. {{inflection of|gd|foo||dative}} instead of {{dative of|gd|foo}}? — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 19:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

  Yes. Vininn126 (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

  @Vininn126 Could we please add {{plural of}}? It's just {{inflection of|xx|foo||plural}}. Theknightwho (talk) 01:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

• Delete all. Theknightwho (talk) 20:00, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
• Can we leave them uncategorized so we don't break old page revisions? Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

  We can deprecate them. Theknightwho (talk) 20:23, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

  If we make them wrappers/redirects, that won't break the old revisions. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:24, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

• Deprecate all. — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 20:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

There seems to be very clear consensus here, @Benwing2 @JeffDoozan @Surjection As bot owners, could someone help? Vininn126 (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@Vininn126 I can help with this and in fact I already have a script from awhile ago to orphan certain form-of templates that I can easily use for this. In terms of deprecation vs. deletion, I have used a criterion of 1,000-3,000 uses; if it's less than this I feel it's OK to just delete the template rather than keeping it as deprecated, but it depends on what others think. BTW {{past tense of}} can maybe also be deleted or deprecated, and it's used on less than 1,000 pages. BTW User:Theknightwho I think {{plural of}} is used in too many places to get rid of and seems more basic than the rest. Benwing2 (talk) 20:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

If there are less than that, I'd agree and say delete, I agree on {{past tense of}} and also think that {{plural of}} requires deeper discussion, but is much more basic. Vininn126 (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

@Vininn126 I orphaned all of the templates in the subject of this section and deleted the two that had < 1000 uses. The others are deprecated. Benwing2 (talk) 02:32, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Thanks! I'm going to mark this thread closed. Vininn126 (talk) 09:00, 18 June 2023 (UTC)