show the links to senseids

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Definitely not annoyed. :)

It would be very simple to make something like this for Wiktionary sense definitions (either using JS or plain HTML+CSS), but I suspect that it wouldn't be a good idea. Github is a coding site, so all of its users can be expected to be reasonably technically competent, whereas there's a good chance that most Wiktionary users wouldn't understand at all what the link was doing, or even know what the hash changing meant (and probably wouldn't have any real use for it even if they did :/ ). For the average user, an extra icon appearing when the user hovers over a definition would probably just add confusion.

For users who do understand enough to know what the hash in the URL means, I would think (or at least hope) that many/most would realize fairly quickly (assuming that links to definitions are somewhat widespread) that the definition's link always matches the gloss, which can typically be found at least once on the page (in a translation table head or similar). Wiki editors would probably also know to look at the page source. This is not an ideal situation, but having another icon popping in and out of an already somewhat complex interface is probably not an overall benefit.

13:36, 2 June 2013

Hm, maybe make it optional. I guess many users install their preferred gadgets anyhow. So we could offer it and then wait for adoption. I could promote it a little bit over Wiktionary2RDF ( Maybe make a screen cast. I guess, having these stable glosses would be a highly wanted feature in the NLP world. For example wordnet definitions have ids that change between each version and the changelog mapping has to be maintained manually.

18:22, 2 June 2013

Make the link icons optional? That could work, I guess. Full JS code would be $(".senseid").each(function(){var a;$(this).hover(function(){$(a).toggle();if(!a){a=document.createElement("a");a.href="#";$(a).text("#").css({position:'absolute',zIndex:5,marginLeft:'-5px'});$(this).prepend(a);}})}) (possibly buggy), and I guess it could be added to either WT:PREFS or as gadget, or both.

Regular adoption of {{senseid}} is still essentially blocked by the fact that the regular linking templates don't support any way to link to the senses. With the deployment of Lua, I had hoped that {{l}} would have support added (as I proposed here), but things seem to be happening disappointingly slowly...

21:57, 2 June 2013

Update: {{l}} now supports linking to senseids. Example: {{l|en|peach|id=fruit}} > peach .

21:48, 7 July 2013