User:-sche/pronunciation problems

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When complete, this page will list everything that can go wrong in a ===Pronunciation=== section, to aid those who seek to find and fix errors in pronunciation sections. Additions are welcomed.

Many of these issues also affect Rhymes: pages.

pronunciation templates don't contain pronunciations[edit]

see Category:Pronunciation templates without a pronunciation

This is always a problem. It can be due to a typo (one too many or too few vertical bars) or can be due to a user writing something like {{IPA|//|lang=foo}}, {{IPA|...|lang=foo}}, {{IPA|/.../|lang=foo}} or {{IPA|[...]|lang=foo}}. The latter will not show up in Category:Pronunciation templates without a pronunciation.

deprecated or nonstandard IPA characters are used[edit]

from Wiktionary:Todo/Entries containing obsolete IPA characters
and Wiktionary talk:Todo#IPA_cleanup_things

This is always a problem. Replacement of the deprecated or nonstandard characters with their modern equivalents can be automated if only pronunciation sections are edited.

The following are deprecated characters:

  • ʤ (should be dʒ or d͡ʒ)
  • ʦ (should be ts or t͡s)
  • ʧ (should be tʃ or t͡ʃ)
  • ʣ (should be dz or d͡z)
  • ʥ (should be dʑ or d͡ʑ)
  • ʨ (should be tɕ or t͡ɕ)

The following are nonstandard:

  • g (in IPA transcriptions, ɡ should be used)
  • ε (U+3B5) (should be ɛ (U+25B))
  • ǝ (U+1DD) (should be ə (U+259))
  •  : (should be ː)
  • ı (U+0131) (should be ɪ (U+026A))
  • ' (should be ˈ, except in some languages, where it is also misused for ʼ)
    • ’ and ‛ and ʻ might also be misused as stress marks, or as ejective markers, and it's even possible that stress marks and ejective markers are misused for each other
  • , (should be ˌ)

In English, r should be replaced with ɹ except in exceptional cases, and /ɻ/ should be replaced with /ɹ/ (but [ɻ] may be OK).

" is used outside of Template:X-SAMPA[edit]

from Wiktionary:Todo/non-standard pronunciation transcriptions

If a pronunciation section contains " outside of an X-SAMPA transcription, this is usually, but not always, an indication that something is wrong. Sometimes, it is only because a pronunciation has a <ref>; this is OK.

accents are indicated by means other than Template:a[edit]

Example: [1]. Robert Ullmann and Thryduulf suggested looking for (RP), (''RP''), ''RP'', [RP], etc. (And (US), [WEAE], etc.)

other irregularities exist[edit]

many from User talk:Robert Ullmann/Pronunciation exceptions
  • <tt> (indicates something is wrong, usually that an X-SAMPA pronunciation needs to be templatised)
  • [[Rhymes: (should be templatised...or are raw links OK?)
  • {| (i.e. table syntax, indicates something is wrong)
  • IPA, enPR or SAMPA/X-SAMPA not as a template name (indicates something is wrong, usually that a transcription needs to be templatised)
  • AHD (indicates something is wrong, usually needs to be changed to enPR)
  • enPR after IPA or SAMPA/X-SAMPA before IPA (should be changed to the standard order: enPR, IPA, X-SAMPA)
  • {{a}} is used in the middle or end of a line (especially following a templated or non-templated transcription) rather than the start
  • {{IPA}}, and any other templates which should, don't contain either / or [
    • {{IPA}}, or any other template, contains an opening / or [ but not a closing / or ]