User talk:Benwing2/oba

@Benwing2: Thanks. Don't forget Talk:оба, perhaps worth exploring "обоея страны" - from either country/side (arch.), etc. Many seem pre-1918 or Church Slavonic/Old Russian, though. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 02:11, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atitarev Sure. Can you explain whether there exists an animate/inanimate distinction in the accusative singular in the obsolete forms? And presumably only genitive обо́его, not animate accusative обо́его, actually exists as non-obsolete? Benwing2 (talk) 02:27, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Benwing2: обо́его genitive is non-obsolete for m and n (the only non-obsolete in the singular). обо́его accusative is for m and n, animate only but is obsolete. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 02:34, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atitarev Thanks. How would you include the obsolete forms? Should we include them in both new-style (post-1918) and pre-1918 declensions, or only the latter? Benwing2 (talk) 02:38, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atitarev With a footnote indicating they are obsolete whenever included, of course. Benwing2 (talk) 02:38, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Benwing2: New-style with the new spelling (normalised without ѣ and ъ), even if for verification purposes we might use the pre-1918 spellings, pre-1918 declensions can be added, of course, as a separate table.

Having trouble confirming the stress on "обоея". It's possible that the final syllable was stressed, as in всея́ (vsejá) (ecclesiastic, Church Slavonic) of всей (vsej) --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 02:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Benwing2: Yes, it's possible. It seems to rhyme better in [1] in the line ...А перия у рыб с обоея́ ж страны.. Still not 100% sure. It's modern literature, by the way (1963) but it has an archaic style--Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 03:12, 27 June 2018 (UTC)