User talk:Brzoskajerzy

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 19:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Your quotes

Thanks for adding these quotations, but why are you putting the passage in italics? Also I saw that your earlier quotations are with improper indentation. Could you please go back to your past contributions to fix those? You can ask me for further information. —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 19:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out to me. I would prefer to use blockquotes but italics is faster to type than

To find out just take a look at the source code of this fragment, which is in blockquotes. On quoting I rely on what I read [1] and in "New Hart Rules"

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With regard to my faulty indentation I will take a look at my earlier edits in five days.

Will correct if I find any.

Regards,

Brzoskajerzy (talk) 05:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Brzoskajerzy:

1. When somebody starts a discussion with you at your talk page, you have to continue the discussion at your talk page itself, and nowhere else!
2. Regarding the quotes, neither blockquotes not italics is the formatting used in Wiktionary: use plain text (you cannot follow rules that you see on other websites, please). Your edit count is small, so you would be able to unitalicize all the texts sooner or later.
3. And by faulty layout, I meant the following where you need to remove the colon from the first line where the date, author's name, book title etc. are given (diff), but I am sorry, because when I saw that edit of yours yesterday, I assumed that some other edits were also done like this typo. (but do fix it). By the way I had to fix some others (diff, diff).
4. Also, do not mark your edits as minor unless they are.

—inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 23:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Erutuon, sorry to bother you, but this user has added quotations in italicised text; I have told them to fix those but we cannot wait for them like this. So, could you please run your bot to unitalicise all of those? Thanks in advance! —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 22:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lbdñk: Hi inqilābī,

Apologies for my newbie mistakes, I will make amends for them. I intend to start unitalicizing the quotes tomorrow. Sadly, I only have time to contribute to wiktionary every five days or so.

I will unitalicize all of them if you don't run the bot that you asked for.

Regards, Jerzy (talk) 09:53, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Brzoskajerzy: okay Jerzy if you can, but that will take much time. Should you proceed, just be mindful of keeping other contents in the pages undisturbed. (Do not worry that the bot might outdo you, because Eru has not yet responded & is probably busy with other tasks.) —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 21:24, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lbdñk: Hi inqilābī,

I unitalicized all of them. And fixed one layout in the word tenement[[2]].

Regards, Jerzy (talk) 10:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@Brzoskajerzy: thank you Jerzy for your toil! By the way, I am seeing that you are not specifying the page no. in your Moby-Dick quotations: providing it would generate a link to the original text (see this: diff). So, henceforth please provide the page numbers; you also have to provide the missing ones for your earlier quotes. Furthermore, I do not know what edition you are using as the basis of the passages that you are adding: use the original text that the link leads you to in case you have not used the same. Take your time to fix / consider these. —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 23:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@Brzoskajerzy: You should have heeded my previous comment instead of venturing your own way. Since Moby-Dick has its own template, you do not have to use the quote-book template. The latter is used for those books that do not have their own templates prepared, but since Moby-Dick has got its own, please use the template intended for it; here is an example (though I linked to my edit revision in my earlier comment):

{{RQ:Melville Moby-Dick|page=62|chapter=XII|passage=But like Czar Peter content to toil in the shipyards of foreign cities, Queequeg disdained no seeming ignominy, if thereby he might happily gain the power of enlightening his untutored countrymen.}}

Please take care to use only this format, and also to replace your earlier quote-book formats with this one. Regards —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 13:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Lbdñk: Apologies - I was unsure whether I was doing right. The reason why Istarted using the quote-book template is that I read Moby-Dick provided by Gutenberg, which I am not entirely sure is the same as that to which the RQ:Melville Moby-Dick template refers. Furthermore, the Gutenberg edition does not provide me with the numbers of pages. That's why I did find the quotebook-template suitable.

Do you know of any online version of Moby-Dick with numbered pages? Such resource would be of much use in the task of replacing the formats of all the quotes in question.

Regards,

Jerzy (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Brzoskajerzy: Oh, you will make me mad! I already told you about the page number; quoting my own words from an earlier comment to you:

[…] I am seeing that you are not specifying the page no. in your Moby-Dick quotations: providing it would generate a link to the original text […] .

Thus, the template I showed you in my previous comment generates the following:

1851 November 14, Herman Melville, chapter XII, in Moby-Dick; or, The Whale, 1st American edition, New York, N.Y.: Harper & Brothers; London: Richard Bentley, →OCLC, page 62:

But like Czar Peter content to toil in the shipyards of foreign cities, Queequeg disdained no seeming ignominy, if thereby he might happily gain the power of enlightening his untutored countrymen.

You thanked me for having added the page number in an edit revision, but did your sight not fall on the hyperlinked page number? And see, this online version (that the template leads you to) is the first US edition of the book. I hope it is crystal-clear now. —inqilābī [inqilāb zindabād] 10:52, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

@Lbdñk: Indeed, the template leads to documents at archive.org that have pages numbered. Everything seems to be crystal-clear now. I should start reformatting all the quotes in three days.

Regards,

Jerzy (talk) 14:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)