User talk:Jiří Bezděka

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dragounovat[edit]

I have sent "dragounovat" to WT:RFV#dragounovat. I cannot verify that the word has been used in at least three independent sources (WT:ATTEST). The entry now has two quotations, but from a single author, and that does not count as two independent quotations. I see you are using kramerius.nkp.cz; do you know how to search the source? By the way, if you find a quotation and want to store it in Wiktionary even though there are not enough quotations for attestation, you can use Citations:dragounovat. The citations page can be there to host citations even for not yet attested entries. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

By the way, my favorite attestation searches: google:"dragounovat", google books:"dragounovat". --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


The entry dragounovat is included in the PSJČ (verbs have to be looked up with a -ti ending) which is also the source I drew from. I find the PSJČ authoritative enough to warrant inclusion of this verb—indeed, any of its entries—into Wiktionary. I then went to kramerius.nkp.cz to find the original quotation. — Thank you for having notified me of the Citations page for poorly attested entries. With respect to Google and Google books, I am afraid they are not quite good options for looking up obsolete or rare Czech words.--Jiří Bezděka (talk) 16:07, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
WT:ATTEST does not recognize dictionaries as sources for attestation, by its requirement of "use in permanently recorded media", as opposed to mention. Thus, PSJČ--Příruční slovník jazyka českého--cannot be used to attest "dragounovat". Wiktionary even has Appendix:English dictionary-only terms, which contains terms that cannot appear in the mainspace. Thus, while "ablocate" is listed in the appendix, the ablocate entry points the reader to the appendix. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:56, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Whatever, thanks for pointing out http://bara.ujc.cas.cz/psjc/. I have created template:R:PSJC and template:R:SSJC, to be added to Czech entries as external links. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
One more note. http://bara.ujc.cas.cz/psjc/search.php?heslo=dragounovati&pocet_karet=50 shows only two cards in the card database, both by the same author. Thus, it is fairly likely that there is only one independent attesting quotation, and that the term does not meet WT:ATTEST. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:46, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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