Talk:دار

Synonyms?

What is the difference between بيت and دار?

24.29.228.33 03:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

a bait is any place of residence, even if it's a tent, flat, a cave, whatever as long as it's the normal place one spends the night. a daar is a house in the sense that it can be a single family house, an apartment house and even a courthouse; it necissarily requires a building.

There's not always a difference between words. Some just mean the same thing. Your distinction is correct, I think. But still, the two words have been widely synonymous. In the dialects there are also regional differences. For example, in Maltese dar means "house", while bejt means "roof". In Levantine Arabic bayt means "house", while dār means "living-room". Kolmiel (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Arabic needed

Arabic definition needed. 24.29.228.33 03:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Mistakes in verb root for Arabic

The verb derivations are mostly wrong, the root is originally a waaw not an alif, so in many cases it must go back to the original waaw; there are also some mistakes in the meanings; which I have corrected.

Removed corrections

I made some corrections the other day, they seem to be removed without explanation. This is what was removed:

1. Etymology 1: There are NO TWO Letter roots in Arabic, the vast majority is THREE, some are four and a very few are five. That is all you can find. There is no root D-R (د ر), that is wrong; I dare anyone to find such a root. The word دار is classifed in some dictionaries under د ا ر, in others it's under د و ر.
2. The meanings under etymology 1 have no relation what so ever with the word دار or the root, not even figuratively. Maybe you are confusing it with درّ, from the root د ر ر or from the meaning of another language.
3. Why was the shadda removed from verb form II? the shadda is a letter and removing it is a spelling mistake which would make one read the word differently; without the shadda it's a noun meaning "houses", the plural of daar (house). The same goes to verb form V.
4. Why was دائر، دائرة، ديرة and دوّار removed?

Regarding the last point, I may not understand how the words a clustered (since you seem to include more than one word in a page). If you would like further information you can see the Wikimoos [1] and [2] or see the root [3]. --Maha Odeh 19:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Etymology 1: It’s not a two-letter root, the root is (د ر ر) (it’s a doubled verb). We are not confusing it with درّ, it IS درّ. It’s a deverbative from درّ. That is why it is listed under a separate etymology.

Shadda was removed from verb form II because we generally do not put shaddas and vowel points in the headword. If you write it with shadda, then you can only find it if you also type shadda. If you type it without shadda, you can’t find it. So that’s why we usually don’t put them on head words. If the search engine was designed to find دور when you type دوّر (and vice versa), then these diacritics would be fine, but the search engine considers those to be two unrelated words.

The words دائر، دائرة، ديرة and دوار were removed because they all belong on their own separate pages. This page is only for دار (except that we also list the other verb form classes here). —Stephen 17:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

This one indeed isn't a two-radical root. But such do exist. One of them is دم (dam, “blood”). In derivatives it may be extended to d-m-w, but this w isn't original. In dialects on the other hand it becomes damm (as if from d-m-m). Kolmiel (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2017 (UTC)