Talk:be off

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be off[edit]

2 senses:

  1. To be working against a present or former addiction to (something.)
    I've been off drugs for almost a month.
  2. To be away from (something.)
    She's on vacation, so she'll be off the net for another week.

Both look like misconstructions by the contributor of (deprecated template usage) be + prepositional phrase headed by (deprecated template usage) off. The first is sense 6 of off; the second is sense 3. DCDuring TALK 22:33, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Delete. "To be working against [...] addiction" is outright wrong, since the given example says "I've been off drugs for almost a month"; that doesn't mean he's been working against addiction for almost a month, but actually not taking the drugs, therefore the def is wrong. It's simply be + off. The same SoPness applies to the other sense, "off the net" (Internet). Compare e.g. (from Google Books) "small talk was off the agenda", "I'm sure that I am off her list as a prospective customer"; and with other prepositions, e.g. "I'm out of here" does not mandate an entry for be out; "is he over his ex-girlfriend?" does not mandate an entry for be over. Equinox 22:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete, for the reasons above. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:42, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Delete per nom.​—msh210 (talk) 19:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Just a bad lemma entry altogether. Senses, if valid, should appear in off. Delete. I am surprised he didn't create be on - He's been on drugs for three weeks.. JamesjiaoTC 20:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Yes. I am now convinced that all of the senses at be off are SoP once we have the required additional senses at (deprecated template usage) off. MWOnline has six senses (16 subsenses), including "started on the way" <off on a spree> and "circumstanced" <worse off>, which are the senses of off required for the unchallenged senses of be off, including this one. See WT:TR#be off. DCDuring TALK 21:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
I can vouch for sense 2 at least - that one is definitely SoP, but we need a sense of off that means "offline, away". -- Liliana 21:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply
Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 17:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Reply


Other senses of be off[edit]

RfD-sense X 2:

3. To leave.

I'll be off in a minute.
I'm off — see you later!

4. To be in possession of money (unexpressed) or something else (expressed).

I have added senses at (deprecated template usage) off to cover these senses of be off. Thus all the senses of be off are under challenge. DCDuring TALK 21:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Deleted. No opposition. The only remaining definition would be “Used other than as an idiom”, but since there is no idiom anymore I deleted the whole entry.. — Ungoliant (Falai) 17:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)Reply