Talk:teinipeili

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teinipeili

Finnish: "A selfie taken through a mirror, especially one that is published in the internet."

Nominated on 26 April 2014.

What about Finnish teinipeili and meitsie? Can you find the results on books or on groups? --88.251.11.42 05:32, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Teinipeili (lit. "teen mirror") has been around for years and finding three quotes in newspapers would be a piece of cake. First internet appearances of meitsie seem to be from January this year, and thus it does not fulfil our "spanning over one year" -criteria.--Hekaheka (talk) 17:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Turkish word 'sanalgı' has been around for years and you may find three quotes in newspapers [1] but it was deleted. Is it not same with 'teinipeili'?--12:46, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

If they were actually nominated, someone might check. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:45, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

No quotations in the entry, no quotations in this RFV. Please add quotations or this will be deleted. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

@Hekaheka could you add some citations, please? I couldn't find any on Google Books or Issuu, and I only found one citation on Google Scholar, but you have better access to Finnish newspapers and the like than I do. - -sche (discuss) 01:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Allright, I'll get the quotes. Meanwhile, some numbers. Teinipeli gets 50,000+ Google hits in a direct search. English is at least 100 times as big as Finnish as measured by the number of speakers. Thus, an English word relatively as frequently used should get at least 5 M hits. --Hekaheka (talk) 07:25, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Now quoted, IMHO. @Dan Polansky, do you agree? --Hekaheka (talk) 11:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@User:Hekaheka: note that {{ping}} does not work lately for some reason; it did not ping me.

I see three quotations at teinipeili, formatted accoring to WT:ELE, providing the date and identifying the source. I do not know whether they are from permanently recorded media (WT:ATTEST), but I do not contradict the claim. The safe core of permanently recorded media is Google books and Usenet, which they are not from, but again, they may still be permanently recorded and lie outside of the core. What makes you think they are permanently recorded? --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:04, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

No. 1 is a university dissertation published both in book format, of which ISBN is provided, and in pdf-format for which the URL is provided in the quotation

No. 2 is from the blog series of the Institute for the Languages of Finland, the official guardian of the purity of Finnish language. Their (electronic only!) dictionary is to Finnish what OED is to English. They archive permanently everything they publish.

No. 3 is from the pages of YLE, the national broadcasting company. They, too, archive everything that they have published in the electronic era, and they have also made a lot of their earlier productions available through internet, see here: [2] The pages are in Finnish, but if you type "teinipeili" in the search window you get links to the YLE articles in which the word is used.

--Hekaheka (talk) 21:00, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

As for durability, I am not really sure, but I think it is fine with me; any other input?

However, the following is a mention, not use: 'This type of picture may be called "selfie" but also teinipeilikuva (lit. "teen mirror image") or more shortly teinipeili.' --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

True, it is a mention, but it is a mention in a linguistic article in the e-mag of Kotus. The purpose of the quotes in RFV process is to prove that the word exists. What would do it better than this type of an article? Anyway, I have added one more quote and there are three uses. I would very much prefer to keep this "mention" as well. --Hekaheka (talk) 05:04, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

There have been no comments within a month. Shall i consider this "passed"? --Hekaheka (talk) 07:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Appears so: RfV passed. --Hekaheka (talk) 17:56, 4 May 2015 (UTC)