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Does this need a reference to the legal usage of time tolling?
"All tolled, there were more than a dozen."[edit]
Where does this usage fall within these definitions & etymologies? To me, it references the germanic etymon meaning "that which is counted". Steve8394 (talk) 01:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think that's an error for "all told", which is based on the sense of tell meaning "to count". Chuck Entz (talk) 04:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Rfd-redundant noun sense 7 ("A portion of grain taken by a miller as a compensation for grinding") - this is just a specific example of noun senses 1, 3, and 4. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:38, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep most people in today's world arent going to know this highly specific meaning. —Soap— 10:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Lean keep because it appears without extra specification (not as "a toll in grain" or something) and I think is otherwise opaque to modern readers, as Soap says. For example, I don't think people would understand "a miller was fined £3 for taking excessive toll" [1] without this sense. The OED does treat this a distinct sense too, FWIW, though it notes that it's a specific application. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 11:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, but possibly demote it to a subsense of 3. I don't think that having one's grain milled was a liberty or privilege in the olden days; but I believe that in some places a landlord or the like had a privilege to compel their tenant to mill at their mills. Sense 1 would then be a poor match.
←₰-→Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 18:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)