Talk:youth

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Rfd-sense (Pointed out by a poster in Feedback):

1. {{context|countable|politically correct|lang=en}} young Muslim
   • 2013, Malin Rising, Associated Press, Riots in Stockholm Spread to More Suburbs:

     Groups of youth have smashed shop windows, set cars ablaze and burnt down a cultural center as the riots that started in one Stockholm suburb after a fatal police shooting spread to other low-income areas of the Swedish capital.

This is entirely determined by the context: in Stockholm, the youths that were causing trouble happened to be Muslims, but somewhere else, it could be any of a number of different religious/racial or even economic groups. The only reason it's used without a qualifier here is because everyone who's reading the article already knows who's rioting. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree, delete (speedily, even). The given citation is using "youth" to refer to "young person/people". In this specific case, they may be Muslim in addition to young, but that doesn't cause "youth" to mean "Muslim" any more than a citation saying this is a picture of "a senator" causes "senator" to have "Indianan" as one of its definitions. - -sche (discuss) 08:35, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

And delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Speedily would be fine with me.

I disagree about context providing the ethnic identification. There was no mention in the text or the accompanying YouTube of the ethnicity of the rioters. The face of only one civilian was shown, one who claimed to have tried to prevent the arson of a police station. So someone like me could not be sure from the context about ethnicity. This seems more likely to be a policy of avoiding ethnic identification in a negative context by using a broad, non-ethnic term.

Any hyponym can be used to withhold more specific identification of an individual or group.DCDuring TALK 11:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

• Speedily deleted. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

youth everywhere is rising in revolt

Collins BrE

plural youths
6. young people collectively
youth everywhere is rising in revolt

OED

(also the youth)
[plural] young people considered as a group
Many people think the youth of today are not taught proper standards of behaviour.

Webster's

2a: a young person; especially : a young male between adolescence and maturity
b: young persons or creatures —usually plural in construction

Cambridge

[Uncountable, + sing/pl verb]
young people, both male and female, considered as a group

[Uncountable]: a noun that has no plural.
[+ sing/pl verb]: A noun that refers to a group of people acting collectively. When used in the singular it can be followed by either a singular or a plural verb in BrE. In AmE a singular verb is preferred. 

--Backinstadiums (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)