Wiktionary:Votes/2012-01/Modify WT:ELE rhymes section

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Modify WT:ELE rhymes section[edit]

=====Rhymes=====
Add a link to the page in the "Rhymes" namespace that lists the rhymes for the
word.  So, for example, on the entry for {{term|hat}}, add the line

<pre>
:* {{rhymes|æt}}
</pre>

to the code. This displays as

:* {{rhymes|æt}}

To see the usage instructions for {{temp|rhymes}}, see [[template:rhymes]].

Do not list the rhymes themselves on the page you are editing.

with

=====Rhymes=====
Add a link to the page in the "Rhymes" namespace that lists the rhymes for the
word.  So, for example, on the entry for {{term|hat}}, add the line

<pre>
* {{rhymes|æt}}
</pre>

to the code. This displays as

* {{rhymes|æt}}

To see the usage instructions for {{temp|rhymes}}, see [[Template:rhymes/doc]].

Do not list the rhymes themselves in the main namespace.

Technical notes: I've had to play around with the spacing a bit to make the text readable due to the occurrence of the pre tag in the original text, which cannot be bypassed using <nowiki></nowiki>. This will not be changed in the text of WT:ELE#Rhymes

The changes are:

  1. Removing the colon before the asterisk in both the example's code and display
  2. Changing template:rhymes to Template:rhymes/doc
  3. Replacing Do not list the rhymes themselves on the page you are editing. with Do not list the rhymes themselves in the main namespace.
  • Vote starts: 00:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23.59, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Support[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support Yair rand 08:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support Mglovesfun (talk) 10:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support.​—msh210 (talk) 19:21, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg OK. DAVilla 01:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Michael Z. 2012-01-30 22:05 z
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support Dan Polansky 09:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Some relevant discussions:
    • Wiktionary_talk:Entry_layout_explained#Pronunciation_section, February 2007
    • Wiktionary_talk:Entry_layout_explained#Rhymes, September 2011
    • Wiktionary:Beer_parlour_archive/August_06#Rhyme_formatting, August 2006, from which I quote a post on a motivation for having the colon:
      "It was me who started indenting homophones and ryhmes. The reason I did this was because many words have several pronunciations. Each pronunciation can be represented in various schemes which are all equivalent and each has its own homophones and rhymes. Without the indenting it's not possible to tell if there is a structure or if the various pieces have just accumulated over time in no particular order. This reasoning is not immediately apparent on words with a single pronunciation but some type of structure is essential for those with several. PS when I came up with this design I also put all pronunciation schemes together on a single line but others felt this was wrong and undid that work in most cases. The result is an ugly format that nobody likes, and not just for rhymes but for the whole pronunciation section. Sooner or later we'll have to give it a good solid redesign. — Hippietrail 13:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)".
    --Dan Polansky 09:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Oppose[edit]

Abstain[edit]

Decision[edit]

  • Passes 6–0; implemented. I also took the liberty of adding a footnote, as in Wiktionary:Votes/2011-04/Sourced policies, even though such wasn't proposed in this vote; I trust that if someone has an objection to that then he'll make it known.​—msh210 (talk) 19:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
    • Adding a footnote is the right thing to do, IMHO, even when this vote does not mention it. --Dan Polansky 19:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
      • I agree. --Daniel 22:29, 22 February 2012 (UTC)