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:::: See also [[your ass]]. So to speak. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: See also [[your ass]]. So to speak. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I think these are in fairly widespread use in the US.
 
:::I think these are in fairly widespread use in the US.
:::''Butt'' is used just like ''ass'' in these constructions. These are not set phrases inasmuch as adjectives (''sorry'', ''pathetic'', etc) can intervene. We have the following at [[[[ass]]]]: "''(slang)'' One's self or person, chiefly their body." and at [[[[but]]]]: "''(slang)'' Body; self." As the use of this as a subject and reflexively may be somewhat unexpected, perhaps such usage should appear among the usage examples at [[[[ass]]]] and [[[[butt]].
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:::''Butt'' is used just like ''ass'' in these constructions. These are not set phrases inasmuch as adjectives (''sorry'', ''pathetic'', etc) can intervene. We have the following at [[[[ass]]]]: "''(slang)'' One's self or person, chiefly their body." and at [[[[but]]]]: "''(slang)'' Body; self." As the use of this as a subject and reflexively may be somewhat unexpected, perhaps such usage should appear among the usage examples at [[[[ass]]]] and [[[[butt]]]].
 
:::I think these are RfD candidates, including [[our asses]] and its relatives. [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 11:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I think these are RfD candidates, including [[our asses]] and its relatives. [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 11:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: Speaking of [[our asses]], why is it defined as a third person singular? --[[User:Wikitiki89|Wiki]][[User talk:Wikitiki89|Tiki]][[Special:Contributions/Wikitiki89|89]] 12:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: Speaking of [[our asses]], why is it defined as a third person singular? --[[User:Wikitiki89|Wiki]][[User talk:Wikitiki89|Tiki]][[Special:Contributions/Wikitiki89|89]] 12:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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Never heard of it. Is it regional? (also "my butt", "your butt", "your butts", "his butt", "her butt", "their butts" and "show one's butt" from the same user) SemperBlotto (talk) 08:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Isn't this just using a part to refer to the whole (I forget what the word is for that). --WikiTiki89 08:32, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
metonymy Equinox 10:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Right, don't we consider metonymy to be SOP? --WikiTiki89 10:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
See also your ass. So to speak. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
I think these are in fairly widespread use in the US.
Butt is used just like ass in these constructions. These are not set phrases inasmuch as adjectives (sorry, pathetic, etc) can intervene. We have the following at [[ass]]: "(slang) One's self or person, chiefly their body." and at [[but]]: "(slang) Body; self." As the use of this as a subject and reflexively may be somewhat unexpected, perhaps such usage should appear among the usage examples at [[ass]] and [[butt]].
I think these are RfD candidates, including our asses and its relatives. DCDuring TALK 11:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Speaking of our asses, why is it defined as a third person singular? --WikiTiki89 12:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Incompetence, I imagine. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
These are all SOP: basically it's a possessive construction that can take any human possessor. For instance, one could say: "I need to see Smith's butt in here immediately! Also, the entries seem to be missing an important part of the usage: they're used as sort of derogatory intensifiers, usually in sentences like "those people had better get their butts over here ASAP if they want to keep their jobs!" I've heard a version in African American slang where "black ass" is used to make it even stronger and more derogatory.Chuck Entz (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
They certainly are used and do exist. Whether or not we should include them is another question and such a thing is to be decided at WT:RFD, not here (WT:RFV). 4.238.4.80 06:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
RFV-passed (see the citations page). RFD if you like. - -sche (discuss) 03:33, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Widespread use in US. This is an RfD matter. I agree with Chuck. This might be a good use for senseid at butt, ass, etc and redirects to it from the SoP expressions. DCDuring TALK 11:16, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


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