User talk:Alves9

Ainu アイヌ

I'm in the middle of reworking that to include references and fix your formatting. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 23:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but that's not necessary. And the entry already has references. Alves9 (talk) 23:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

It included one reference, which did not agree with some of what you entered. The entry now includes three references and a clearer structure. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 00:23, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand why you removed the antonyms and synonyms, and not only that, but also the senses. Now it just looks like I added a bunch of loosely connected terms that mean "human".

The structure of entry is indeed the same, and I don't see how what you added disagrees with what was there before. The definitions are the exact same.

The reason why I removed the image is because it doesn't fit the entry nor makes it easier to understand. You can add another one if you want.

Alves9 (talk) 00:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

The biggest issue is that the references -- even just Batchelor, the one reference on the page to start with -- disagree with your content. For instance, none of Batchelor, Chitose, or Bihoro list ニㇱパ (nispa) with a meaning of husband. If you have a different reference that does include this sense, then please include the reference.

Separately, various concepts do not readily lend themselves to clear and unambiguous opposites. What is the antonym of bank, for instance, or octopus, or shoe? Likewise, the opposite of man is unclear -- it could be woman, or it could be boy, or it could be beast, etc. etc. Too much depends on the context of the question. The list of purported antonyms is even more confusing when no glosses are included. The user has to click through to each target term in order to divine the meanings of each, and from that, deduce what context the editor intended by listing these as "antonyms". Consequently, a flat list of terms without glosses under an ====Antonyms==== header is poor usability. I purposely restructured to utilize what we see in the entry at man, which has a ====Coordinate terms==== header instead.

The image is a clear illustration of people in Ainu traditional costume, displaying further information for the sense "Ainu people". That is why I added the image in the first place in 2016. After browsing various images at that time, this was the one that I thought most clearly depicted an image of "Ainu people". If you object to the caption, please adjust it. If you object to the image, please find an alternative rather than just removing it.

Your continued removal of the Wikipedia link is also confusing to me. This provides users a quick, clear, and easy way to see related information in Wikipedia. Providing relevant information in a clear and easy-to-use format is part of the point of this project. Please do not remove that.

The {{also}} link at the top of the page is part of our standard format, and should be included at the top of entries where the headword may visually resemble another. Please do not remove that.

‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 16:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)