Reconstruction talk:Proto-Germanic/sinþaną

Reconstruction

The Gothic form is unattested as far as I can find, being reconstructed based on the causative and derived nominals. Rather, the verb is attested in Middle Dutch sinnen, Old High German sinnan, pointing to Proto-Germanic *sinnaną, Pre-Germanic *sentne-. A similar formation is also seen in *tinnaną (“to burn”) < *dendʰne-. Anglom (talk) 22:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

RFD discussion: March–April 2020

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Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/sinþaną

Reconstructed term with no descendants listed. —Mahāgaja · talk 18:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Delete --{{victar|talk}} 03:45, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Keep. Even though it has no direct descendants, it has grandchild descendants and bridges a gap between PIE *sent- and several other PGmc terms, like *sandijaną, *sinnaną, etc. Leasnam (talk) 21:07, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Your first point doesn't make sense. You can't have grandchildren without having children. —Mahāgaja · talk 21:29, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I think what they're saying is derivatives, as opposed to direct descendants, which is make obvious by the derived terms section. I just don't think that warrants an entry and should be left to an etymology. --{{victar|talk}} 23:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Correct. That's what I meant. I know we have other PGmc entries like this, which have no direct descendants, but whose existence is inferred based on other words and derivatives. I just can't find one at the moment... Leasnam (talk) 23:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• RFD-deleted. Such entries are usually shot on sight. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:04, 25 April 2020 (UTC)