Reconstruction talk:Proto-Turkic/buka

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Latest comment: 7 years ago by Crom daba in topic Possible long u
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Doerfer lists various loans into Iranic, Uralic, Caucasian and other languages but I entered only those I could find easily. Someone will hopefully do this at some point. Crom daba (talk) 17:36, 25 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Vahagn Petrosyan, maybe? Also, there are Armenian redlinks. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)Reply
I added some, but many more remain. --Vahag (talk) 07:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Possible long u[edit]

Old Turkic script suggests the "u" can actually be long, otherwise it should have been written 𐰉𐰆𐰴𐰀. Same exampe also exists in 𐰸𐰆𐰪 (qōń, sheep) rather than 𐰴𐰆𐰪 (qoń). Where /𐰸/ is /uq/, /oq/, /qo/, /qu/ but 𐰴 is just /q/. There is also absurd amount of voicing which should not have happened in most languages maybe apart from Oghuz. But in this case Turkmen does not preserve a long u and Karakhanid also seems to have short vowel so it is confusing. --Anylai (talk) 11:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Tuvan also has a low tone/glottalization, (usually reflecting a short vowels for those unfamiliar). Perhaps the voicing was influenced by Mongolian буга (buga), Khakas at least seems to have merged the two meanings into one word. Crom daba (talk) 12:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)Reply