Talk:ταλασίφρων

talasis?

@Erutuon This noun seems to imply the existence of a noun "talasis" or something similar. Is any such noun attested? —CodeCat 23:57, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@CodeCat: There's τλῆσις (tlêsis, “audacity”), but no *τάλασις (*tálasis) in the LSJ at least. The adjective τάλᾱς (tálās, “miserable”) doesn't have quite the right form or meaning. I'd expect it to yield *ταλαντίφρων (*talantíphrōn) with the meaning "miserable(-hearted)". So there doesn't seem to be a very clear origin for the first morpheme. — Eru·tuon 00:08, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I'd love if you could explain something else. I don't understand how *telh₂-‎ yields ταλα- (tala-). If it was zero-grade *tl̥h₂-, I would've expected τλᾰ- (tla-). Is there some condition that causes a syllabic sonorant near a laryngeal to change into a vowel-sonorant sequence rather than just a sonorant? — Eru·tuon 00:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know, syllabic sonorant + laryngeal yields a sonorant + long vowel. The quality of the vowel is determined by the laryngeal. So tl̥h₂ would give tlā. —CodeCat 00:59, 6 April 2016 (UTC)