Talk:бронирование кабины

RFV discussion: February–July 2016

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Russian obscure military terms

This is a partial list of these terms. There are almost certainly more. AFAIK they were all added by User:Stephen G. Brown. Translation as given in the entry follows in parens.

• бронирование кабины ("cockpit armor")
• диэлектрический обтекатель антенны ("dielectric antenna housing")
• задняя створка передней стойки шасси ("rear nosewheel door")
• крыльевой топливный бак ("wing fuel tank")
• люк ствола пушки ("cannon port")
• направляющая фонаря кабины ("cockpit canopy sliding guide")
• носовой радиопрозрачный обтекатель антенны радиолокационной станции ("dielectric plastic nose cap"??? is this mistranslated?)
  • "Radar-transparent nose radome" makes more sense. SpinningSpark 02:33, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
• подвод воздуха для охлаждения реактивного конуса ("tailpipe cooling air inlet")
• прибор управления фотопулемётом ("gun camera control device")
• рукоятка стояночного тормоза ("parking brake lock handle")
• передняя створка передней стойки шасси ("forward nosewheel door")
• чаша катапультируемого сиденья ("ejection seat pan")
• цилиндр выпуска воздушного тормоза ("airbrake jack")
• селекторная коробка двойного ручного управления силовой передачей ("transmission dual manual control box")

These terms are cute and some serve as interesting tests for my declension module because of their length, but I doubt very many if any are verifiable, and per User:Atitarev they're all SoP anyway.

Apologies if I should be splitting this request up; I'm not very familiar with the RFV procedure but it seemed to make most sense to process them all together. Benwing2 (talk) 05:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

• бронирование кабины ("cockpit armor") : google books:"бронирование кабины" - attested; move to RFD if it's not idiomatic
• диэлектрический обтекатель антенны ("dielectric antenna housing") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• задняя створка передней стойки шасси ("rear nosewheel door") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• крыльевой топливный бак ("wing fuel tank") : google books:"крыльевой топливный бак" - attested; move to RFD if it's not idiomatic
• люк ствола пушки ("cannon port") : seems to be unattested
• направляющая фонаря кабины ("cockpit canopy sliding guide") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• носовой радиопрозрачный обтекатель антенны радиолокационной станции ("dielectric plastic nose cap") : seems to be unattested
• подвод воздуха для охлаждения реактивного конуса ("tailpipe cooling air inlet") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• прибор управления фотопулемётом ("gun camera control device") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• рукоятка стояночного тормоза ("parking brake lock handle") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• передняя створка передней стойки шасси ("forward nosewheel door") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• чаша катапультируемого сиденья ("ejection seat pan") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• цилиндр выпуска воздушного тормоза ("airbrake jack") : seems to be unattested and SOP
• селекторная коробка двойного ручного управления силовой передачей ("transmission dual manual control box") : seems to be unattested and SOP

- -sche (discuss) 18:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! I really appreciate the work. Benwing2 (talk) 06:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

@Benwing2: Could you please delete the entries as RFV failed? --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:36, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky I deleted all except for the two attested terms (along with derived non-lemma forms); the RFD for them hasn't been closed. Benwing2 (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

• RFV failed except for two. Thank you for the deletion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:54, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

RFD

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A list of Russian terms for your consideration

• бронирование кабины ("cockpit armor")
• диэлектрический обтекатель антенны ("dielectric antenna housing")
• задняя створка передней стойки шасси ("rear nosewheel door")
• крыльевой топливный бак ("wing fuel tank")
• люк ствола пушки ("cannon port")
• направляющая фонаря кабины ("cockpit canopy sliding guide")
• носовой радиопрозрачный обтекатель антенны радиолокационной станции ("dielectric plastic nose cap"??? is this mistranslated?)
• подвод воздуха для охлаждения реактивного конуса ("tailpipe cooling air inlet")
• прибор управления фотопулемётом ("gun camera control device")
• рукоятка стояночного тормоза ("parking brake lock handle")
• передняя створка передней стойки шасси ("forward nosewheel door")
• чаша катапультируемого сиденья ("ejection seat pan")
• цилиндр выпуска воздушного тормоза ("airbrake jack")
• селекторная коробка двойного ручного управления силовой передачей ("transmission dual manual control box")

They are all SoP, IMO. It's more important some still missing components, like направля́ющая (napravljájuščaja), which I am planning to do. I don't see the need to split into individual requests. They seem pretty straightforward cases. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 01:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Also missing: радиопрозра́чный (radioprozráčnyj), радиолокацио́нный (radiolokaciónnyj), селекто́рный (selektórnyj). Benwing2 (talk) 07:59, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

I added some more such terms.

Pinging @Stephen G. Brown, who added most of these terms, and who has argued that these are technical military terms that should be kept. Note that some of the terms may not be translated literally. Any comments? Benwing2 (talk) 08:05, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

• First, if something can be deleted as unattested, then it should be deleted via RFV, and it should then be relatively non-controversial, largely constrained to evidence-based fact finding. For instance, google books:"прибор управления фотопулемётом" does not seem to find any attesting quotations. Second, this format is not really suitable for RFD, and does not meet out usual conventions. Third, the question is not only whether they are sum of parts within Russian but also whether a Russian-English translator would know how to translate them starting with the Russian terms. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
• RFD closed: all but two deleted via RFV. I will open separate RFDs for the two not deleted. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)