Talk:گمرا

@Irman: How can Old Norse gaumr be a possible cognate? Iranian /g/ does not correspond to Germanic /g/. Proto-Indo-European /*ǵʰ/ results in Germanic /g/ but it gives Iranian /z/. On the other hand Iranian /g/ corresponds to Germanic /k/. Otherwise, if the initial /g/ in Persian is from Old Persian /k/, it will correspond to Germanic /h/. Just look into it & thanks in advance! @JohnC5 am I right?

@Irman, JohnC5 you need to add your signature if you want to ping someone. —Aryaman ^{(मुझसे बात करो)} 17:18, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, @Aryamanarora (I would never have seen this). I'll have to look more into this later, but PIE *gʰ does give Germanic *g and Iranian *g, so formally, something like *gʰowm-ro- could work. —JohnC5 18:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5:: some persian words are loanwords fom Iranian dialects of Transoxiana which they show more similarity to germanic and slavic branch of indo european than original persian. I think they might have been borrowed from scythian language.(Irman (talk) 11:38, 11 June 2017 (UTC))

@Irman: After digging around in the literature, Kroonen prefers *gʰowǵʰ-mo-s, from *gʰewǵʰ- (“to heed, guard”) as the origin of Old Norse gaumr, which also gives Sanskrit गूहति (gū́hati), Avestan 𐬔𐬎𐬰𐬀𐬉𐬙𐬀 (guzaēta). Cheung does not list this Persian word as the descendant of that root (or this word at all). —JohnC5 04:54, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

@JohnC5: Hello Johnny Cheung! as I mentioned before this word is a loanword from a dialect of Transoxiana which was derived from an Eastern Iranian language and had never been familiar to persian speakers of southern and western regions of Persia and became obsolete after around 13th century. (Irman (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC))