Talk:Ἀγαμέμνων
Latest comment: 7 years ago by JohnC5 in topic Etymology?
The vocative is Ἀγάμεμνον: Ἀτρεΐδη κύδιστε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν Ἀγάμεμνον / δῶρα μὲν αἴ κ' ἐθέλῃσθα παρασχέμεν, ὡς ἐπιεικές, / ἤ τ' ἐχέμεν παρὰ σοί. (Homer, Iliad, Τ 146-148) Svlioras (talk) 21:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed. The entry was using a partially functional inflection template, which is why the vocative singular substitution wasn't working. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:17, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Etymology?
[edit]According to Wikipedia, the etymology that ties this word to μένω (ménō) is wrong. It cites Beekes; @JohnC5, I think you have access to that reference. Could you correct the etymology? — Eru·tuon 15:49, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- This is all Beekes gives:
- ETYM Since Prellwitz BB 17 (1891): 171f., a pre-form *Αγα-μέδ-μων has been assumed, with the root of μέδομαι. The development -δμ- > -νμ- > -μν- is known in various Greek dialects (other examples in Lejeune 1972: 775, where also on the development to -σμ-).
- Kretschmer Glotta 3 (1910-1912): 330f connected the second part with μένος and μένειν (which von Kamptz 1982: 181 and 209 finds improbable), explaining -σμ- as a kind of popular assimilation.[1]
- So that would look something like:
- —JohnC5 23:15, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
References
[edit]- ^ Beekes, Robert S. P. (2010) “Ἀγαμέμνων”, in Etymological Dictionary of Greek (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 10), volume I, with the assistance of Lucien van Beek, Leiden, Boston: Brill, →ISBN, page 8