Talk:〳

Why redirect?

Why is 〳 redirecting to 〳〵? They are clearly different marks. 71.66.97.228 15:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

〳 is never used alone. It is only ever used together with 〵 to form the sign 〳〵. It should be written vertically, but there's no proper support for it as of yet. -- Liliana • 15:36, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you--so it's similar to 々, I guess. 71.66.97.228 15:48, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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I created this redirect only because it was requested on Wiktionary:Wanted entries. It was speedied, I restored it and sent it here. Refer to Talk:〳 for more information. -- Liliana • 15:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Keep as a redirect, for those who do not know Japanese and attempt to look up each character individually. - -sche (discuss) 19:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't 〳〵 be a subpage of Unsupported titles, so we can give it a vertical title? - -sche (discuss) 19:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Possibly, if you think it's necessary go ahead. -- Liliana • 19:48, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, I tried, but it seems not even {{unsupportedpage}} supports <br> vertical titles. Bahaha. I did find a picture of the proper vertical display to add, though. - -sche (discuss) 01:20, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps try that template with a newline rather than a <br> in it. (Not sure it will work, but worth trying.)​—msh210℠ (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Wait. If I understand this correctly, the symbol used in the classical texts is "〱"; it can stretch to take up the space of two or three characters. "〳〵" (written vertically) is only a modern way of inputting it in the cases in which it takes up the space of two characters. If that's the case, "〳〵" should be a soft redirect to "〱". (〱 is curretly a hard redirect to 〳〵.) - -sche (discuss) 21:26, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, that is an option I hadn't considered, in fact Unicode even says "the preceding two semantic characters are preferred to the following three glyphic forms". So yeah, it might be better to move the entry to 〱. -- Liliana • 22:47, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

If I tried to look up 〱 and was redirected to 〳〵 I might be very confused. If you do it the other way please at least explain the difference. Fugyoo 22:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I moved the entry to 〱. -- Liliana • 19:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Resolved / kept (〳〵 and 〳 redirect to 〱). - -sche (discuss) 02:02, 9 January 2012 (UTC)