Talk:昆布

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Lua error in Module:ping_user at line 16: The username "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5:2aa9" contains the incorrect namespace "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5". Was this really used in Old Chinese? Wyang (talk) 08:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Wyang The name is found in Eastern Han's s:zh:吳普本草#綸布. However I don't know what Old Chinese is defined here.--2001:DA8:201:3512:68DF:9943:93CA:8518 08:26, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
Lua error in Module:ping_user at line 16: The username "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5:2aa9" contains the incorrect namespace "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5". Ok, thanks! Eastern Han is treated in some sources as the late period of Old Chinese ("Later Old Chinese"), so it is okay. Wyang (talk) 08:31, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Wyang: The problem is 綸 and 昆 have different pronunciations in Old Chinese. — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 08:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
It does have "一名昆布" though. But wait... is this the original description in 吳普本草? Lua error in Module:ping_user at line 16: The username "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5:2aa9" contains the incorrect namespace "‎2001:da8:201:3512:2df5:128d:d5d5". Wyang (talk) 08:45, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Wyang It's hard to say if it's in the original description. Chinese Wikipedia says 原書已佚,但清朝焦理堂據各方史料整理出輯本, so I don't even think 吳普本草 can be treated as an original text from Eastern Han. — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 08:49, 13 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
I will remove the Old Chinese reading, just to be safe. Wyang (talk) 22:41, 14 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
If anyone is interested, here are some discussions on this word and the pronunciation of 綸: 「綸巾」的「綸」為什麼讀ㄍㄨㄢ?《歷史月刊》, 「綸巾」──積非成是的讀音, the Erya passage. Wyang (talk) 23:50, 14 October 2017 (UTC)Reply