Talk:東南アジア諸国連合
Latest comment: 5 months ago by Jusjih in topic RFD discussion: March 2022–May 2024
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Japanese SoP encyclopaedia material. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 21:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not quite SOP though, in that this is definitely a proper noun (c.f. English White House), and also a not-entirely-obvious translation. A literal translation of the EN into JA might be something more like 東南アジア諸国の協会 (tōnan Ajia shokoku no kyōkai). The term 連合 (rengō) is often rendered as something more like "union, alliance, confederation". Keep. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Eirikr: I’m sorry, the justification should have been it’s not dictionary stuff. The very translation Association of Southeast Asian Nations is a redlink; however we keep abbreviations/initialisms. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 09:41, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. I think that, so long as our entries are well-formed and stick to describing the "word-ness" (etymology, pronunciation, glosses, usage examples, etc.), and we leave the description of "thing-ness" (what it is, how it functions, cultural impact, political analysis, etc.) to Wikipedia, then I have no problem at all with Wiktionary including such entries.
- To put this another way, why shouldn't we have an entry at Association of Southeast Asian Nations? This is a distinct term: this is not just any association that happens to include countries from Southeast Asia, nor can we rephrase and say "Southeast Asia Country Society" and be understood with any certainty -- just as White House is not any house that happens to be white, nor can we rephrase and say "house that is white" and be understood with any certainty.
- We have entries at White House, Blue House, Eiffel Tower, Great Pyramid of Giza, European Commission, United Nations, North Atlantic Treaty Organization. These are all proper nouns and distinct terms. We aim for “all words in all languages”. :) ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:20, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral —Fish bowl (talk) 00:47, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Kept. No consensus.--Jusjih (talk) 00:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)