Talk:-burger

hamburger does not refer to ham, rather the german city of hamburg - as the dish originally originates from there and brought to the usa by german migrants.

In the islamic world hamburgers are renamed to beefburgers to advoid thinkimg the dish is made of pork which is a forbidden food in islam

Etymology fixed, thanks --Ivan Štambuk 04:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Per DCDuring, all the derived terms seem to be compounds, not stem + suffix. I dunno what tests we have to determine what the difference is, but if it's just instinct, I say delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

keep. A compound which has turned into a suffix. --Rising Sun talk? contributions 23:53, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

No. The evolution seems to have been (deprecated template usage) hamburg steak (?), (deprecated template usage) hamburger (1884), (deprecated template usage) cheeseburger (1928), (deprecated template usage) burger (1937). I believe the other derived terms are subsequent. (deprecated template usage) cheeseburger would seem to be a blend. As (deprecated template usage) burger antedates the others, we would seem to have a noun used to form compounds. If it did exist independently, especially before the derived terms, then it would be better considered a suffix. DCDuring TALK 02:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I think (deprecated template usage) burger is enough and this could be deleted. If someone deletes it, can they please make sure that the box of "derived terms" is moved to (deprecated template usage) burger? Equinox ◑ 17:28, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I have edited (deprecated template usage) hamburger, (deprecated template usage) cheeseburger, and (deprecated template usage) burger to be consistent with the etymological story that I tell above. I will edit all the derived terms to use {{compound}}. DCDuring TALK 18:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

"burger" now has as a second definition: "(chiefly as a combining form) A similar sandwich or patty." I don't think that combining forms can miss a dash. It is "-burger" that is a combining form. Given that "cheeseburger" is derived from the model of "hamburger" rather than from "burger", it follows that "-burger" is the implied combining form. Keep "-burger" as a combining form. Keep the list of derived terms in "-burger". And the etymology currently given in "-burger" seems correct: "Back-formation from hamburger, as if it were ham + -burger." Delete "burger--(chiefly as a combining form) A similar sandwich or patty." Also, it is dubious that "cheeseburger" is a compound. Properly, propably, "-burger" is merely implied, and all the burgers are derived on the model of "cheeseburger", which pioneered this sort of derivation from "hamburger". But I do not see how to determine how exactly the burgers were derived. Entering the burgers as derivations in the implied combining form "-burger" seems okay. --Dan Polansky 08:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

kept. -- Prince Kassad 19:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)