Talk:Abraham
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Overlordnat1 in topic Second UK IPA
Usenet
[edit]Earliest Usenet uses via Google Groups:
- Abraham: net.jokes - 16 Jun 1982 by ihuxk
- Who did God like better -- Moses or Abraham?
- Abraham's: net.religion - 11 Feb 1983 by floyd
- Clearly God was not talking about physical genealogy but rather spiritual nations that become Abraham's descendents because they believe God as Abraham did.
- Abrahamic: net.women.only - 5 Jan 1984 by Don Stanwyck
- Many Christians refer to the "church" (the group of all Christians) as the New Israel, and seek to remind themselves of the Abrahamic Covenent through such means as circumcision.
- Abrahimic: soc.religion.islam - 30 Sep 1992 by Shakil Waiz Ahmed
- There were still some Meccans who totally secluded themselves from such evil acts, some still tried to hold on to the old Abrahimic way and there were others who even held on to the *true* christianity.
- Abrahamism: soc.culture.lebanon - 17 Nov 1992 by Nabeel Ghuzlaan
- Why was not this idea mentioned by other religions, like Judaism, Abrahamism, etc.?
- Abrahamist: soc.culture.arabic - 19 Jan 1993 by Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
- For this reason, those of us who are modern civilized Westerners either by birth or by conviction must undertake the neutralization of Islamist religionist fanatics in particular and Abrahamist religionist fanatics in general whenever possible and as quickly as possible.
- Abrahamists: alt.atheism - 12 Mar 1993 by Joseph Askew
- The problem here is that Buddhism is a family of beliefs, it is like referring to the Jews, Moslems and all Christians as 'Moses-ites' or the lot as Abrahamists.
- Abrahamically: alt.messianic - 10 Mar 1994 by Amos Wittenberg
- Yours Abrahamically and Mosaically, -- Amos Wittenberg
- Abrahamisms: soc.culture.indonesia - 4 Oct 2002 by Jeffrey Anjasmara
- The Tomb of the Patriarchs, a massive stone structure built by King Herod 2,000 years ago, is the grim living metaphor for dueling Abrahamisms.
— Hippietrail 14:06, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Second UK IPA
[edit]/ˈɑːbrəhæm/. Um, really? Who? Where? When? Mglovesfun (talk) 15:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
- I’ve heard some very Welsh people say /ˈaː.bɹə.ham/ on occasion but never /ˈɑːbrəhæm/. Overlordnat1 (talk) 01:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- There’s a YT video of the Welsh football hooligan Annis Abraham, and his Welsh interviewer pronounced his surname similarly to our current U.S pronunciation for Abram, in fact, but with an unreduced final syllable. We also have Ábraham and it’s variants, as well as Aabraham. I can find a handful of people online, mainly from non-Anglophone countries, with Ahbraham and Abbraham as either a first or last name but some of those may be typos and jokey Twitter handles, there’s not a famous one among them. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- I’ve just deleted the dubious pronunciation. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 00:48, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Overlordnat1: I had the thought when I saw this that this might have been liturgically influenced, so a (partial) imitation of Ecclesiastical Latin, but it's difficult to find anything concrete. For the record though I happened across this blog post from today by a British priest where he quotes a very similar pronunciation from a priest in the 1950s: "The psalms of Dahvid I recite in heaven's own native Latin […] ". —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Al-Muqanna: That’s very interesting but I can’t find the book by Eric Mascall that he’s quoting from on GoogleBooks. Dahvid seems strange as it should be either Daːvid or David in Latin and this spelling suggests Dɑːvid but I suppose it might justify adding Dɑːvid as a rare pronunciation of David. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:13, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Overlordnat1: I had the thought when I saw this that this might have been liturgically influenced, so a (partial) imitation of Ecclesiastical Latin, but it's difficult to find anything concrete. For the record though I happened across this blog post from today by a British priest where he quotes a very similar pronunciation from a priest in the 1950s: "The psalms of Dahvid I recite in heaven's own native Latin […] ". —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- I’ve just deleted the dubious pronunciation. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 00:48, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- There’s a YT video of the Welsh football hooligan Annis Abraham, and his Welsh interviewer pronounced his surname similarly to our current U.S pronunciation for Abram, in fact, but with an unreduced final syllable. We also have Ábraham and it’s variants, as well as Aabraham. I can find a handful of people online, mainly from non-Anglophone countries, with Ahbraham and Abbraham as either a first or last name but some of those may be typos and jokey Twitter handles, there’s not a famous one among them. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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Volunteer to clean up the etymology, as my browser deals poorly with right-to-left script. Perhaps one of our Hebraists? --Mglovesfun (talk) 12:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Also seraphim, please. --Mglovesfun (talk) 12:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done, I think. (Formatted correctly, I mean. Not checked for accuracy.)—msh210℠ (talk) 16:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks - I struggle with piped links (like [[this|This]]) in right-to-left scripts; plain links are usually ok. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- You can always use <!--x--> after the pipe to straighten things out:
[[ב־|<!--x-->ב]].—msh210℠ (talk) 15:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- You can always use <!--x--> after the pipe to straighten things out:
- Thanks - I struggle with piped links (like [[this|This]]) in right-to-left scripts; plain links are usually ok. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Done, I think. (Formatted correctly, I mean. Not checked for accuracy.)—msh210℠ (talk) 16:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)