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RFV discussion: August 2013–June 2014[edit]

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  1. {{context|New York City|historical|lang=en}} The main water supply pipe to a building or apartment

I suspect this is a response to usage that mentions a "Croton" supply to buildings, which I would argue is merely an attributive reference to the Croton aqueduct, and to the water, not the pipe. In the same way, I might refer to the DWP supply to the apartment building where I live, without needing to define the pipe as a "DWP". I don't really want to spend the time at the moment to sift through the evidence to be sure, so I'm bringing it here.

I should also mention that this was originally given a proper-noun POS, which is inherently incompatible with the definition, and that it also contained a separate etymology with a noun that was an exact copy of the translingual section. I came very close to just reverting the whole edit. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

There might be room for an English L2 section for Croton as a toponym, for the river, watershed, etc. I don't think that we would do dams, aqueducts etc. I can't imagine that someone is willing to do all the work that is probably required to engage in a probably futile search for attestation of the challenged sense.
BTW, Dewap would be attestable as "A bond issued by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power". DCDuring TALK 12:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I found one cite that almost supports the existing sense: an NY Times article (1879) referring to a broken Croton pipe. I'm guessing that the search range could be temporally limited to between 1840 and 1939, but more recent fiction might use it to add historical flavor.
Since we seem to like proper nouns so much, I'm willing to add and cite the metonomic sense of Croton as something like "the NYC water supply". DCDuring TALK 18:56, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
It's not much fun to try to cite things when the JS for displaying quotations doesn't work. DCDuring TALK 19:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Try hard-refreshing. Our ULS killer with many random innocent victims has been removed. I am working on a new version with predictable mass innocent victims. Keφr 19:29, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Hard-refreshed, cleared my cache: No joy. DCDuring TALK 21:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I see. It works if I have no cache at all: FF private window. DCDuring TALK 21:53, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
But only for a few minutes. DCDuring TALK 22:44, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
I seem to be having a problem with this particular page, but I haven't isolated a cause. Nothing seems wrong on the page. DCDuring TALK 14:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Problems may be solved. Who knows why? Though I copied the WebFonts killer from Keφr's js. DCDuring TALK 20:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Failed. — Ungoliant (falai) 02:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC)