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Why was it done, why is {{cognate}}
and {{mention}}
used instead of Logogram from Aramaic [Term?]. for arameograms thanks
WordFeel (talk) 07:10, 25 January 2025 (UTC)WordFeel
Hello, just a question about an edit you made on the ‘in-18’ page for French.
[edit]The source I put down for the entry lists it as an adjective & all books I’ve read where it appears use it in an adjectival sense. Could I change it back? Pvanp7 (talk) 10:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Pvanp7: Simple answer: no. More complex answer: for this page and its synonyms, your definitions ("a page size", "a book") and templates (
{{head|fr|noun}}
) are for nouns, with only the headers saying they're adjectives. Wiktionnaire, on the other hand (fr:in-18), has two entries: an adjective, and a noun. - For a similar page-format entry we have octavo with both the format and the book definitions as nouns, while Wiktionnaire has fr:in octavo with a noun and an adjective (it derives the "in" from Latin, not English). English doesn't need an adjective because we can use nouns attributively where other languages would use adjectives or prepositional phrases ("car keys" aren't "keys that are car").
- You would need to split each of these entries into:
- An adjective definition (probably a non-gloss one) with an adjective headword template and an adjective header for the format
- A noun definition with a noun headword template and a noun header for something printed in that format.
- It's been four decades since I took French, so I may be missing something- but that's basically it. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Clés de voiture." I've never thought about this before. Thanks! I'll try to make the suggested edits. Yeah, I forgot I copy pasted part of it, so that was why it was {{head|fr|noun}}.
- Pvanp7 (talk) 22:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Jalu
[edit]Hi! I saw that you edited the entry I made on 'jalu' in Swedish. I'd like to see any sources you have that supports that this word has ever been used in the comparative or superlative form, rather than being conjugated using 'mer'/'mest'. Yenx (talk) 22:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are none. I don't claim to know Swedish enough to do more than very basic edits. Feel free to add any of the parameters mentioned at Template:sv-adj to change or suppress those forms. My concern was that there was no headword template at all (the template you had there was for displaying a declension table). I took the calculated risk that the attention category added due to missing parameters would get a Swedish editor to look at the entry before any damage might be done. WT:EL requires a headword template for every part-of-speech section, which has no doubt changed in the decade and a half since you were active in creating new entries. Every entry should be in either the lemmas on non-lemmas category for the language, which is added by a proper headword template. This was in neither, so it showed up in a cleanup list. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
CAT:E will be flooded with Arabic entries I will start fixing them in 10 mins or so. — Fenakhay (حيطي · مساهماتي) 19:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
The only change I did was that I added a couple of categories indicating it is a Spanish non-lemma noun form as it was a Mexican Spanish slang word (but there was no Mexican Spanish non-lemma noun category), but you have reverted my change without giving an explanation. Please see also w:WP:RBREVOKE on the English Wikipedia, regarding the use of rollback with the default summary to revert good faith edits, which can likely be considered misuse of the tool. Thank you. Codename Noreste (talk) 10:16, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, this isn't Wikipedia, and we don't have a lot of the rules and procedures they have- we have far fewer admins and more pages. More importantly, the categories are for finding entries and should only be added by the headword template in a Spanish entry. Until there's a proper Spanish entry on that page, there shouldn't be a category saying there is one. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. What I understand about that this is not Wikipedia is the fact that when I linked about WP:RBREVOKE, that was a simple guideline over there that might also apply to other projects, and not just here. Codename Noreste (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Codename Noreste What Chuck is saying about rollback is that Wiktionary has different rules and norms from Wikipedia; rollback of good-faith but bad edits is not considered misuse here simply because admins don't always have time to explain the issue, for the reason Chuck mentioned: the admin/editor-to-page ratio is MUCH lower for us than for Wikipedia. In particular, we have a similar number of pages to the English Wikipedia but our active editor and admin base is maybe 1% of Wikipedia's. Benwing2 (talk) 06:03, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- I apologize for the late response, but I hereby thank you for clarifying. The thing is, I rarely do content/dictionary work here as I mostly patrol projects for vandalism and spam. Codename Noreste (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Codename Noreste What Chuck is saying about rollback is that Wiktionary has different rules and norms from Wikipedia; rollback of good-faith but bad edits is not considered misuse here simply because admins don't always have time to explain the issue, for the reason Chuck mentioned: the admin/editor-to-page ratio is MUCH lower for us than for Wikipedia. In particular, we have a similar number of pages to the English Wikipedia but our active editor and admin base is maybe 1% of Wikipedia's. Benwing2 (talk) 06:03, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. What I understand about that this is not Wikipedia is the fact that when I linked about WP:RBREVOKE, that was a simple guideline over there that might also apply to other projects, and not just here. Codename Noreste (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Your rollback on "munggah", "mudun", and "kopyah"
[edit]Hi, I just want to make clear that you can refer to these words on "Bausastra Jawa" and "Pepak Basa Jawa" (these two books we used for reference for words, and the usage of "Aksara Jawa" as I'm a Javanese.) Mrachmad59 (talk) 18:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you struggling with {{tcl}}
. The intended use is to transclude definitions of toponyms and similar technical terms from English into a foreign language. The reason this wasn't working is the Spanish entry was trying to transclude the Basque entry, rather than the (nonexistent) English entry, which I just added. Benwing2 (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
Ty
[edit]Ty so much! Whoami313 (talk) 01:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi Chuck, I'm just wondering what the reason is for having this filter "hidden". There doesn't seem to be anything especially secret about it, and it not being hidden would have assisted Polomo47, according to this BP thread. Can I unhide it?
(As an aside, it makes me glad to see you, and others, fixing the errors identified in the WT:Todo/Lists. When I started that project I wasn't sure if anyone would pay it any attention, but I'm glad to see people like you are making use of the lists to improve Wiktionary.) This, that and the other (talk) 12:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
"nothing to see here"
[edit]Hi, I noticed that you deleted nothing to see here a couple of years ago. I was thinking about making a page for that and am wondering exactly what your reasons were for deleting it in the first place. Thanks! Manuductive (talk) 19:50, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Manuductive: A mass delete usually means that it's more related to the person who made the entries and the quality of their edits rather than anything inherently wrong with the possibility of such entries being created. In this case I was trying to discourage someone who was repeatedly evading a block. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Interaction ban with Knight?
[edit]I thought we'd agreed that there was an interaction ban between Knight and I in a previous discussion. Then why is he going around deleting redirects I've created and claiming they are vandalism? It sure feels like he's trying to start a fight to justify blocking me again. That bugger CANNOT avoid being confrontational Purplebackpack89 12:50, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi,
Isn't a bit part of its etymology? JMGN (talk) 01:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, Oxford has as possibe idioms: not a bit and not one (little) bit
- https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/bit_1 JMGN (talk) 01:13, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JMGN That can go in the etymology. You trashed the headword line, removing the headword template and replacing it with text. Don't do that. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- It must go in the headword line, as is the current case with on top of within on top of that. I thought that was the standard procedure... JMGN (talk) 01:19, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JMGN: on top of has an intact headword template. That kind of thing would be okay. What you did wasn't. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, it's on top of that's headword where it's specified as [on top of] + [that]. JMGN (talk) 01:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- See my modification to the entry. You tried to do things with one of the parameters without checking the documentation, so it blew up on you. Replacing the headword template with wikitext didn't fix the problem, it just replaced it with another one. In this case, you needed to add the extra stuff to the
|head=
parameter, not the first positional parameter. If you can't figure out how to get the templates to do what you want, ask someone who can. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:47, 24 March 2025 (UTC)- Where can I find the corresponding info about the edition of those parameters? JMGN (talk) 10:07, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- See my modification to the entry. You tried to do things with one of the parameters without checking the documentation, so it blew up on you. Replacing the headword template with wikitext didn't fix the problem, it just replaced it with another one. In this case, you needed to add the extra stuff to the
- No, it's on top of that's headword where it's specified as [on top of] + [that]. JMGN (talk) 01:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JMGN: on top of has an intact headword template. That kind of thing would be okay. What you did wasn't. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- It must go in the headword line, as is the current case with on top of within on top of that. I thought that was the standard procedure... JMGN (talk) 01:19, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JMGN That can go in the etymology. You trashed the headword line, removing the headword template and replacing it with text. Don't do that. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)