Talk:Iracum

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FYI: Both English Wiktionary (Wiktionary:RFV#Iracum) and Latin Wikipedia ([1]) were not able to attest a nominative *Iracum. However, there is evidence for a nominative *Iracus - besides Irac and Iraca -, which then could be feminine (like Aegyptus) or masculine (like many second declension nouns, including some which were originally feminine but also became masculine in ML or NL like paragraphus).

  • 1760, Thomas Flloyd, Bibliotheca Biographica: A Synopsis of Universal Biography, Ancient and Modern. Vol. I., London:
    • AMADEDDALAT I, sultan of the race of the Buides: he, in a short time conquered Persia, Iracus, and Karamania. He fixed his metropolis at Schiras 933, and died 949.   — Iracus in an English text which could imply that there was Latin *Iracus
  • 1800, J. White, Abdollatiphi Historiae Aegypti Compendium, arabice et latine
    • (The appendix has Latin and German text together and has Eraco and Eraci in Latin, while it is Irâk and irakensischen in German)   — the nominative could be *Eracus, cf. with the text from 1863 and the English text which has Eracus
  • 1831, William Hamilton, The History of Medicine, Surgery, and Anatomy. In two Volumes. Vol. I., London, page 241 (Latin text inside an English book):
    • Natus est Rei, quae urbs in Iraco Persico, aut potius fortasse in provincia Chorassana, sita est, ibique nosocomio praefectur.   — ablative of *Iracus or *Iracum; not feminine, that is, if it is *Iracus then it's masculine (though it could also be feminine by other authors)
  • 1831, Henricus Orthobius Fleischer, Catalogus Codicum Manuscriptorum Orientalium Bibliothecae Regiae Dresdensis, Lipsia, page 87:
    • [...] in urbe Iraci persici Qom [...]   — genitive of *Iracus or *Iracum; not feminine, that is, if it is *Iracus then it's masculine (though it could also be feminine by other authors)
      [...] in the city Qom of the Persian Iraq [...]   — (?)
  • 1863, Nicolai, Constantinopolitani Archiepiscopi, Epistolae. Tomus unicus, page 1181/1182, 1186 and page 1187:
    • Videlicet r, Regionum; u, Urbium; g, nominum gentilium inde ductorum; p, populorum; ins. insularum (fluviorum et montium indiculo ad calcem subdito).   — explains the abbreviation r below; regionum is genitive plural of regio
    • Eracus, r. (Babylonica, seu Chaldaica) ...
    • Irac, Iracus. Vide Eracus.
  • Julius Ley, De templi Meccani origine, Berlin, page 44:
    • [...] in Iracum sive in Jemen profecti sint [...]   — accusative of *Iracus or *Iracum
  • Palestine Pilgrims' Text Society, London (books.google):
    • When Abou Bekr was elected Caliph he made war upon the dissenting Arabs until they came back to Islam. After this he sent Khaled Ebn Walid with a great army to Eracus.
    • [...] which was the first tribute paid in Eracus, and the first money which reached Abou Bekr from that province.

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RFV discussion: June 2017

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split from the main discussion at WT:RFV#Niger / Talk:Niger so it can be archived
Cited now in the nominative. — Kleio (t · c) 19:35, 18 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
I've found a third citation, so this now has enough to pass. - -sche (discuss) 21:34, 18 June 2017 (UTC)Reply