Talk:Thor's hammer

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RFV discussion: April–July 2015[edit]

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RFV-sense "swastika".
There are two citations on the citations page, but the first actually uses "Thorshamarr", and I interpret the second not as a use of the phrase "Thor's hammer" as a name for the swastika symbol, but as a suggestion that the swastika symbol was one of several stylized representations of Thor's hammer. The citations I see on Google Books are all very mentiony, e.g.: "Some foreign authors have called it Thor's hammer, or Thor's hammer-mark, but the correctness of this has been disputed..."
Robert Philips Greg's On the Meaning and Origin of the Fylfot and Swastika does have "In Iceland another form of Thor's hammer is found in the shape of 卍", but this suggests that "Thor's hammer" is a generic name for several different shapes, not specifically the swastika. Compare: in the sentence "in blackletter, another form of double U is found, namely w", "double U" does not mean "w" (w is merely one form of double U). - -sche (discuss) 02:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

"H.R. Ellis Davidson puts up an acceptable case for identifying the swastika with Thor's hammer, while admitting the swastika to be the older of the two signs." That seems to say unambiguously that they are not the same symbol. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:36, 14 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 07:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)Reply