Talk:accano
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As far as I can see, no sources list a perfect of the form "accecini", and I'm suspicious of it because reduplicated perfects generally don't show up with prefixed verbs. I can't find any genuine uses of "accecini" or "accecinit" from an online search.--Urszag (talk) 02:22, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Attested uses of accanui, accanuit or accanuerunt would settle the matter, but an (admittedly somewhat cursory) search did not yield any of these either. More research is needed. --Lambiam 16:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- The grammars I've looked at seem to only mention accano as a collateral form for the present-tense forms of accino, which is listed with a perfect form accinui (which I've seen attestations of). So if we do list a perfect form for accano, accinui currently seems the least bad option to me.--Urszag (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- RFV failed, edited to mark verb as missing a perfect form.--Urszag (talk) 05:32, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- There are plenty of examples of accecinit in texts from the medieval period or later, and some also of accinuit. The question is which to count as 'correct', if either. Nicodene (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- In that case, the best thing to do seems to be to restore "accecinit" to the conjugation table at "accano". Can you help to add citations for these examples? Based on what I wrote, I wasn't able to find any when I made this RFV last year, but when I tried now I was able to locate two: Carmina illustrium poetarum italorum, Historia philosophiae, vitas, opiniones, resque gestas, et dicta.... As for "accinuit", it is already listed as a form of "accino" so I think it's fine to leave it out on the "accano" entry.--Urszag (talk) 04:27, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- There are plenty of examples of accecinit in texts from the medieval period or later, and some also of accinuit. The question is which to count as 'correct', if either. Nicodene (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- RFV failed, edited to mark verb as missing a perfect form.--Urszag (talk) 05:32, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
- The grammars I've looked at seem to only mention accano as a collateral form for the present-tense forms of accino, which is listed with a perfect form accinui (which I've seen attestations of). So if we do list a perfect form for accano, accinui currently seems the least bad option to me.--Urszag (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
RFV-resolved This, that and the other (talk) 04:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Latin. Perfect and supine forms are not attested in sources, and also as an intransitive verb the passive forms can only exist in the third person singular:
- accanantur
- accanar
- accanar
- accanentur
- accanere
- accanere
- accanere
- accanerentur
- accanerer
- accaneris
- accanerēminī
- accanerēmur
- accanerēre
- accanerēris
- accaniminī
- accaniminī
- accaniminī
- accanimur
- accanitor
- accanitor
- accanor
- accantum
- accantū
- accanuntor
- accanuntor
- accanuntur
- accanāminī
- accanāmur
- accanāre
- accanāris
- accanēbantur
- accanēbar
- accanēbāminī
- accanēbāmur
- accanēbāre
- accanēbāris
- accanēminī
- accanēmur
- accanēre
- accanēris
- accecineram
- accecinerant
- accecinerat
- accecinerim
- accecinerimus
- accecinerint
- accecinerint
- accecineris
- accecinerit
- accecinerit
- accecineritis
- accecinerāmus
- accecinerās
- accecinerātis
- accecinerīmus
- accecinerīs
- accecinerītis
- accecinerō
- accecinimus
- accecinissem
- accecinissent
- accecinisset
- accecinissēmus
- accecinissēs
- accecinissētis
- accecinistis
- accecinistī
- accecinit
- accecinēre
- accecinērunt
- accecinī
- Ah, I'm sorry, the entry doesn't seem to have been updated yet with the outcome of the RFV that I initiated. In fact, usage examples were found for the perfect stem "acceccin".--Urszag (talk) 02:52, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - I'll remove the perfects (a bit later today as I need to sift through), though we should still delete the non-impersonal passive perfects. Theknightwho (talk) 10:15, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
RFD-resolved, perfect forms kept, non-impersonal passive perfects speedy deleted. This, that and the other (talk) 11:48, 27 May 2022 (UTC)