Talk:auscultate
Latest comment: 12 years ago by Metaknowledge in topic RFC discussion: June 2012
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There is a dispute with another user that auscultate only refers to touching a stethoscope to a patient in order to listen for their lung sounds but it is clearly also used to refer to the ausculation of heart sounds, this is evidenced by the articles on wikipedia for stethoscope and heart sounds, and any medical book. This other user stubbornly blocked me for reentering factual information and the definition is currently inaccurate, any thoughts?Lucifer (talk) 19:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- You do realize that you are that "other user"? See http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/auscultate?diff=16869694. —RuakhTALK 19:36, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- This time, Lucifer is right. I have fixed the definition and removed the tag. Technically speaking, the defintion was already correct, because it refers the reader to auscultation, but it's clearer now. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, he's wrong: he would only be correct if either (1) only lung sounds could be auscultated, as he initially claimed, or (2) only lung sounds and heart sounds could be auscultated, as he now implies. But neither of those is true, because in fact, plenty of other things can be auscultated as well; for example, examination of the abdomen includes auscultation to listen for bowel sounds. The best fix is simply to remove this encyclopedic information that is not relevant to the term auscultate. —RuakhTALK 22:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I've never heard of bowel auscultation, but auscultation supports that idea of everything, so I'll change it. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:01, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- The real problem is that this isn't really a full-fledged lemma in its own right. The proper place for this stuff is auscultation, which already has a definition that covers the extra information. By the way, the "see also" section has ausculate, which doesn't seem to exist. Perhaps LW was thinking of osculate, which is only similar in that heavy breathing is often involved... Chuck Entz (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- It's one of his more common spelling errors, I'll fix it. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, he's wrong: he would only be correct if either (1) only lung sounds could be auscultated, as he initially claimed, or (2) only lung sounds and heart sounds could be auscultated, as he now implies. But neither of those is true, because in fact, plenty of other things can be auscultated as well; for example, examination of the abdomen includes auscultation to listen for bowel sounds. The best fix is simply to remove this encyclopedic information that is not relevant to the term auscultate. —RuakhTALK 22:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have common spelling errorz?Lucifer (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, even when you're not imitating a lolcat. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)