Talk:computer hardware

What's wrong with the computer hardware definition? Thanks. Shustov 20:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Nobody's challenging the accuracy of the definition if that's what you mean. But it's not a dictionary term; it's hardware for a computer. We don't have white T-shirt for example because it's a T-shirt that's white. --Mglovesfun (talk) 20:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Please see WT:RFD#computer hardware for discussion. -- Liliana • 20:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

According to Wiktionary, a dictionary type definition is: A statement of the meaning of a word or word group or a sign or symbol. Let's apply my motto 'Do not pretend you know better. Be better!' to the discussed definition of computer hardware; namely, do it better, please, if you can. Shustov 01:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

The issue isn't with the quality of the entry, but with the existence of the entry. Compare computer mouse being deleted because it's obviously a mouse for a computer. Equinox ◑ 01:51, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Let's look at a good example, instead. I mean my initial definition of seismic fitness which was simply improved by User:Msh210 and that's it. Shustov 05:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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computer hardware

I'm going to assume anyone of us could figure this one out on their own. -- Liliana • 20:26, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete. --Mglovesfun (talk) 20:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete. Equinox ◑ 20:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Keep, we of course can, my grandma can't, my mom might have trouble too, even some of my friends just a few years older that grew up right before they started throwing computers in the classroom.Lucifer 20:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

But they can look up computer and hardware. I mean your granny also won't know what computer monitor, computer keyboard, or computer mouse is (the last one actually failed a RFV/RFD already), but we don't need entries for these obvious combinations. Equinox ◑ 21:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete. --Actarus ^{(Prince d'Euphor)} 08:13, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

@Gtroy, do your mom and your grandma no what hardware in the computing sense is? --Mglovesfun (talk) 13:41, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

The old people I do, don't. They need the qualifier computer or else they understand Home Depot, my point is that it is a set phrase in a way that. They do understand mouse, keyboard, and not monitor but screen. Keys (typewritter) and Keyboard is not much of a strech and is is similar enough to a piano keyboard. Mouse is really universally understood for some reason and not very often confused with a rodent. I clicked the mouse, I used the mouse doesn't seem to match much with I set traps for the mouse, my cat ate the mouse, I petted the mouse. As for monitor I find older people understand "to look after" generally if I don't say computer monitor and they often ask for confirmation "the computer screen?" so I usually say screen, also not many computers have "monitors" anymore as that tends to refer to bulky box CFC type monitors and they have been largely displaced by flat screens, tablets, and laptops. Hardware has a very set understanding of having to do with construction, home improvement, tools, wood, for a lot of people in a way the others simply don't and taking into account that this dictionary is not on paper and that this is a set phrase I think it should be allowed, also it would make translations easier.Lucifer 22:21, 12 November 2011 (UTC)Lucifer 22:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Right, delete.​—msh210℠ (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

@Gtroy my point was that if someone doesn't understand this definition or hardware, they won't understand any utterance with hardware in it. So they won't understand I upgraded my computer's hardware last night, but that doesn't mean I upgraded my computer's hardware last night is an English idiom. --Mglovesfun (talk) 18:57, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete: sum of parts. It’s hardware of computer. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 08:11, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Deleted.​—msh210℠ (talk) 23:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)