Talk:di ferro
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Imetsia in topic RFD discussion: December 2020
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Italian SOP. Better defined as "iron (attributive)"; doesn't necessarily refer to cast iron. Imetsia (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, SOP. Indeed, iron swords are spade di ferro, which are always forgiate (forged) and not cast. --Lambiam 15:13, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Delete. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:19, 12 December 2020 (UTC)- Doesn't it have the same figurative senses as French de fer? 2A02:2788:A6:935:D5F9:ADA4:5F31:C02F 15:32, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Treccani says "In molte espressioni fig., soprattutto nella locuz. agg. di ferro, indica forza, robustezza, energia fisica e morale, resistenza (cfr. ferreo)." Compare English iron (“used as a symbol of great strength or toughness, or to signify a very strong or tough material”). I am striking my delete for now to let the Italian editors weigh in on whether we should add a figurative sense at ferro or di ferro. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- It seems that all Italian dictionaries I consulted have it as "di ferro" for this figurative sense (I originally neglected this figurative meaning). Accordingly, I withdraw this nomination. Imetsia (talk) 18:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Treccani says "In molte espressioni fig., soprattutto nella locuz. agg. di ferro, indica forza, robustezza, energia fisica e morale, resistenza (cfr. ferreo)." Compare English iron (“used as a symbol of great strength or toughness, or to signify a very strong or tough material”). I am striking my delete for now to let the Italian editors weigh in on whether we should add a figurative sense at ferro or di ferro. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- RFD-kept. Imetsia (talk) 18:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)