Talk:evenhood

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I am having trouble finding three uses of this. There are certainly more mentions than uses. DCDuring TALK 20:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any unselfconscious uses on b.g.c.; though this one is O.K. per WT:CFI, and this one probably is (though snippet view makes it hard to be sure). But to be sure, I don't think all the mentions are actually wrong; rather, they seem to be updating the spelling and form of an old word spelled in an old way. (Euenhede, for example, would have no difficulty meeting the CFI.) We are unusual, even among dictionaries, in our obsessive emphasis on spelling. —RuakhTALK 17:03, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A spelling like "euenhede" would seem to be attestable in Middle English at least. Such a spelling is more reliable than our sometime use of {{dated}} and other tags as indicating that a term is not used in current English. I found the mention of evenhood by the advocate of the use of Anglo-Saxon words in philosophy to be telling of its non-use. DCDuring TALK 19:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think we'd call that (deprecated template usage) evenhede on Wiktionary. I think we require three citations post 1470 for this to count as Modern English. Presumably if (deprecated template usage) evenhood is not attestable, the only uses of it must be a long time ago. The difference Ruakh, as you know, is that we allow all attestable spellings to have entries, whereas paper dictionaries and some online ones will just direct you to the most common spelling. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's part of the difference, yes, but not the relevant part. ;-)   —RuakhTALK 16:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I look through the few quotations of this word and am motivated to ask for verification of the other senses — of the whole word. I have added every quotation I found (the same two Ruakh found) to the citations page. - -sche (discuss) 02:46, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Two senses were added after the initial RfV, apparently based solely on OED authority, which makes no Modern/Middle English distinction. I'd be happy if we only had a Middle English entry if there are not three Modern cites for each sense. DCDuring TALK 14:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
RFV-failed, converted to a Middle English entry. - -sche (discuss) 23:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


For me if it is found in the Century wordbook, then that is enough to lift it out Middle English since the word was still known when the Century wordbook was printed. Even tho I don't like marking words obsolete, you could use that or the archaic tag. AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal! 04:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]