Talk:huǒzàng

RFV discussion: May–October 2011

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huǒzàng

No hits on GoogleBooks. [1]. ---> Tooironic 01:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I dare say most if not all pinyin entries would not have any google hits, as they are simply not used in literature (unless one that specifically deals with pinyin). The phrase 火葬, however, is a common term. I think ddpy (aka 123abc, even though he doesn't admit it himself)'s reasoning behind including pinyin terms is to make it convenient for people, not whether they are attestable in books. I don't have too much of a problem with that, except he doesn't create the corresponding character entries for the pinyin entries that he creates... - but I guess that's an issue for another topic. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 01:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Toned pinyin entries are not disallowed but they should not encouraged (toneless pinyin entries is not allowed), so applying the attestability check is a method to restrain the flood of pinyin entries without character entries. The purpose of pinyin is to help learners to pronounce Mandarin words correctly, not to replace the writing system. Entries kaishi, kāishǐ (I added the 2nd etymology recently) make the work on the true Chinese entries duplicated - 開始 / 开始, 開駛, 开驶, creating a mess and inconsistency. I see no value and they are not citable, delete. (I have deleted the Mandarin section of kaishi - toneless)--Anatoli 06:17, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

• Toned Pinyin entries are allowed and they should encouraged. They have value, please see Wenlin Pinyin dictionary. 91.106.38.88 13:08, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Whether or not you think something has value is beside the point. Entries must pass Wiktionary's CFI. Anyway, even if someone were to type in toned pinyin (which is impossible to do without copying and pasting from another source anyway!) they could still find the entry under its hanzi equivalent. By the way we know you are User:123abc and have blocked you on the multiple accounts you are abusing under, so really your input is not required. ---> Tooironic 00:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Keep if attestable. Otherwise don't. 'Nuff said. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deleted - no corresponding character entries. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 01:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)