Talk:mania

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Why has no one written about mania? It truley surprises me with all the ecclectic information so easily assessable.

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mania[edit]

Senses 1 and 3 should be merged, IMHO, and I ask for support for this.

  • Sense 1: Violent derangement of mind; madness; insanity.
  • Sense 3: (psychiatry) The state of abnormally elevated or irritable mood, arousal, and/or energy levels.

The phrasing of sense 1 is directly from Webster 1913[1].

The genus of the merged def should be "mental disorder" or "mental illness" since I don't think psychiatry denotes a one-off temporary state of high energy level a "mania".

For comparion: mania at OneLook Dictionary Search. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Oppose. The psychiatry term doesn't mean 'madness' or 'insanity', it's a specific medical condition of elevated mood. Madness/insanity refer to many things like hallucinations which have nothing. In fact I suspect #1 is a dated definition not in current use. I believe only the medical definition is in use. Can anyone confirm or refute this? 95.144.169.113 17:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Given there's no overlap in meaning at all, can anyone provide a deletion rationale? 95.144.169.113 16:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Okay. I think the Webster 1913 definition (sense 1) was intended to cover the psychiatric sense 3. Yes, mania in the psychiatric sense and madness are not synonyms. I checked mania at OneLook Dictionary Search and found dictionaries only have two senses. Maybe I should have tagged sense 1 with {{rfd-sense}}, but it should not matter all that much since I ask for a merge. Another option is to send sense 1 to rfv-sense to see what sort of support in evidence that sort of definition has. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
@Mglovesfun: added a third sense added 2013: (psychiatry) The state of abnormally elevated or irritable mood, arousal, and/or energy levels. Unfortunately did not attest the quote (from Berrios G. E. (2004). "Of mania". History of Psychiatry 15 (57 Pt 1): 105–124. doi:10.1177/0957154X04041829. PMID 15104084.) correctly, having added attribution (Definition taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mania&oldid=572079138) as an edit comment.
In 2015, @Dan Polansky: improved it and added {{rfd-sense}} (diff).
Looking at both, it seems arbitrary to select one
  • Violent derangement of mind; madness; insanity.
  • (psychiatry) The state of abnormally elevated or irritable mood, arousal, and/or energy levels.
and not the other. No one is adding attributions (WT:CFI) just folks chatting about what they read on the internet. WT:AGF I added the cite, I don't have access to that journal to add a quote. —BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 14:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC)