Talk:nickel and dime
This seems to also be used as a verb. I have difficulty articulating a definition for it in that sense, so someone more articulate, please add it :-)
- I've defined it as "to make progress in small increments" which could obviously use some improvement. Kappa 18:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
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Noun: 15 years. nickel = 5 years (prison term); dime = 10 years. Please tell me how this is idiomatic and not straightforwardly compositional. One commonly advanced justification is that users can't know which sense of "nickel" or "dime" (or for that matter "and") might be involved. If that is so, this doesn't have to go. All we have to do is count the number of senses for each term. If at least one term has more than one sense, there is a prima facie case for inclusion. I don't know for sure what happens after that. DCDuring TALK 01:26, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like an inverse RfV issue to me. Can it be demonstrated that someone wouldn't say "three nickels"? If no alternative combination of words is used to effect this sentiment, then I would think that makes it idiomatic. bd2412 T 04:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- The issue is not what the preferred term for a prison term of fifteen years is, but whether someone knowing that a "nickel" is a five-year term and a "dime" is a ten-year term wouldn't be able to infer that "nickel and dime" is a fifteen-year term. The line of reasoning offered implies that we should have as adjective "black and white" because statistically it is much more common than "white and black". That would seem to out-Pawley Pawley. Thanks for the novel argument. DCDuring TALK 11:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Do nickel and dime mean five and ten years, resp., when used alone? We lack those senses.—msh210℠ 18:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)