Talk:oramak

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RFV discussion: April 2022–January 2023[edit]

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Turkish, to mow. Ultimateria (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Turkish Wiktionary does not list this as Turkish, but as Turkmen and Chagatai. (For the latter language we use Arabic script, but do not have a corresponding entry.)  --Lambiam 07:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At least it existed in Ottoman Turkish اورامق (oramak), under which spellings you find some listings. Seemingly carried into Modern Turkish etymological dictionaries by inertia or indifference to the distinction between Modern and Ottoman Turkish, although it is plausible that it has remained in some (rural …) corner of Turkey. Fay Freak (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The entry for Ottoman Turkish اورامق lists اوراق (orak) and اوران (oran) as related terms. Both exist in present-day Turkish; see orak (sickle) and oran (rate, ratio). For the former, İlhan Ayverdi’s Misalli Büyük Türkçe Sözlük, a historical Turkish dictionary, gives: (Eski Türk. orğak < or-mak “biçmek”). For the latter: (Yalnız Türkiye Türkçesi'nde kullanılan kelimenin kökü belli değildir) – “the root of the word used only in Turkey’s Turkish is not known”. No mention of any oramak, also not as an obsolete Ottoman Turkish verb.  --Lambiam 13:07, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
RFV-failed. Fay Freak (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


RFV discussion: May 2023[edit]

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Turkish. Tagged by User:BurakD53 but never listed. I find the ancestor اورامق (oramak, to reap with a sickle) marked archaic in {{R:tr:NewRedhouse}}, which means it died out before late Ottoman Turkish. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We missed to delete it after the previously failed RFV. Fay Freak (talk) 19:39, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]