Talk:pittura a olio

RFD discussion: April 2020–January 2021

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pittura a olio

Seems SOP to me as Italian for "oil painting." As the related terms for the entry also make clear, this is hardly the only common "pittura a [X]" construction. For instance, there's "pittura a acquerello" (watercolor painting [SOP]) and "pittura a tempera" (tempera painting [SOP]). We rightly do not have those entries, and we shouldn't have this one either. Imetsia (talk) 13:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Is oil painting itself SOP? —Mahāgaja · talk 14:06, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Only if oil paint is. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:08, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

oil painting wouldn't be SOP even without considering oil paint. Sense 3 of oil painting is very figurative and wouldn't be easily gleaned from the sum of parts, so that alone renders "oil painting" non-SOP. For the other senses, that would be a question for English RFD. There is the rather strong argument from the fried egg test that the entry is idiomatic. In other words, it clarifies that the term refers to oil paint, not olive oil, petroleum oil, etc. (Though sense 4 of oil encompasses oil paint). For what it is worth, however, the Italian native-language dictionaries don't treat this as a distinct lemma. Instead, from what I've seen, there's one sense of "pittura" as "the technique adopted for painting, e.g. "a olio," "a tempera," "a acquerello," etc." There's a case to be made that this might be a better way to treat this, rather than having numerous entries for "pittura a [medium]." (Or, alternatively, have a single pittura a entry). What is more, there are probably countless fried-egg-test determinations that this entry could open the door to: pittura vascolare (painting of or on a vase?), pittura murale (painting of or on a wall?), etc. Imetsia (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

• Keep - Dentonius (my politics | talk) 06:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

RFD-kept. Imetsia (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)