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RFV discussion: January–March 2015[edit]

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RFV of several senses. I managed to cite most of the senses of this, but there are a few that elude me:

  • "(transitive) To strike with the hand; slap."
  • "(online gaming) Abbreviation for platinum coins, a currency used in the massively multiplayer online game Ultima Online." If I'm not mistaken, this may need to pass WT:FICTION.
  • "(obsolete) The flat or broad side of a sword."
  • "(obsolete) Flatly; smoothly; evenly." This sense was supposedly used by Drant (Thomas Drant?), if anyone can find where.

Also, I didn't want to RFV it, but if anyone can find one more modern English citation of the adverb sense "plainly; flatly", that'd be great, since right now it only has two modern English citations. (Has the OED got any leads?) - -sche (discuss) 20:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

The OED says that the Scottish National Dictionary records the sense "Bluntly, plainly; straightforwardly, directly" as still in use in Shetland in 1966. The most recent cite in the OED is from 1898 "J. Nicolson Aithstin' Hedder 50 Ta pit it aa doon plain an plat Wid hinder time ower mukkle.". Dbfirs 20:50, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
I... I understood one of those words. I think. lol.
I'm pretty sure that means that it is, as you said, Scots and not English. :-p - -sche (discuss) 21:03, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have provided a translation. The OED doesn't recognise "Scots" as a separate language, of course, since it blends seamlessly with Scottish English, but I agree that for our purposes the sense is better categorised as Scots and as obsolete in modern English (last Chancery English cite is 1598). Dbfirs 21:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
RFV-failed. I moved the first sense to platten#Middle_English. - -sche (discuss) 03:15, 8 March 2015 (UTC)