Talk:worry oneself sick

RFD discussion: June 2021

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worry oneself sick

SOP. Per Equinox, this is just a "just a general resultative construction" with a high degree of substitutability. Imetsia (talk) 21:09, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

I do think it's SOP but it is also a very common collocation. I've never heard "worry oneself ill", or "worry oneself unwell", or "fret oneself sick". That isn't necessarily a rationale for keeping, but worth a mention... Equinox ◑ 21:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

The much more common collocation worried sick redirects to worry oneself sick. I don’t think that’s right. It is not a verb form (past participle) but an adjective, and the disappearance of the reflexive pronoun is inexplicable.  --Lambiam 15:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

@Lambiam: It comes from the non-reflexive version worry someone sick, which it's originally the past participle of: "Frankly, it worries me sick to even think about it." PUC – 15:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Delete as basically SOP. Although no one says "worry oneself ill" or "worry oneself unwell", people do say "worry oneself to death", "worry oneself silly", "worry oneself into a tizzy", etc. And similar constructions with other verbs are common: "work oneself sick", "work oneself to death", etc. Nosferattus (talk) 06:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Delete 🔥ಶಬ್ದಶೋಧಕ🔥 12:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Move to worry someone sick (done), then I would keep this: it's no different from drive someone crazy, the French translations are non-trivial (WT:THUB, though I'll admit we can put these at tie oneself in knots), and it's found in other dictionaries (WT:Lemming principle, though I don't think it's a good argument per se). PUC – 15:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Imetsia: Any thoughts about this? 2A02:2788:A4:205:3CC8:9F5F:53CB:FDCF 19:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Not really. I still think the term is SOP and an example of a "general resultative construction." drive someone crazy somehow sounds more entryworthy simply because it's a more common expression. Imetsia (talk) 19:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough. 2A02:2788:A4:205:3CC8:9F5F:53CB:FDCF 19:48, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I think we are done, now that it's a redirect to the new worry someone sick. Facts707 (talk) 16:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)