Template talk:grc-ipa-pron

RFDO discussion: April–October 2014

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Obsolete Ancient Greek IPA templates

The following templates are obsolete (replaced by {{grc-ipa-rows}}) and unused:

• {{grc-ipa-pron}}
• {{grc-ipa-ck}}
• {{grc-ipa-ckk}}
• {{grc-ipa-ckb}}
• {{grc-ipa-ckbk}}

EDIT: I'm adding {{grc-ipa-cla-acute}}, {{grc-ipa-cla-circ}}, {{grc-ipa-cla-grave}}, {{grc-ipa-con-aspir}}, {{grc-ipa-con-double}}, {{grc-ipa-koi-long}}, {{grc-ipadnup}}, {{grc-ipaupdn}}, and every template in Category:Ancient Greek IPA tokens, as well as the categories, which are long past due.

Additionally, if I may ask, what is the purpose of {{Template:grc-ipa-cla-acute}} and other similar apparently unused templates? ObsequiousNewt (ἔβαζα|ἐτλέλεσα) 17:51, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

STRONG KEEP: Template:grc-ipa-rows uses Template:grc-ipa-row which uses the above five templates. --kc_kennylau (talk) 18:00, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure? Because I checked, and I'm pretty sure the five templates Template:grc-ipa-rows uses are grc-ipa-cla, grc-ipa-koi, grc-ipa-koi2, grc-ipa-byz, and grc-ipa-byz2, not any of those. ObsequiousNewt (ἔβαζα|ἐτλέλεσα) 18:05, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Delete I'm pretty sure all of the listed templates are no longer used and can be safely deleted. {{grc-ipa-row}} can use the listed templates, but it never actually does. Quite frankly, this only covers the tip of the iceberg. All of the individual IPA tokens have been abandoned in favor of an in-template switch, and there has to be hundreds of them. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 18:09, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so I'm deceived by my pride again. --kc_kennylau (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

So you mean that {{grc-ipa-byz}} &c. are also superfluous? And what is the purpose of {{grc-ipa-cla-acute}}? ObsequiousNewt (ἔβαζα|ἐτλέλεσα) 21:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

{{grc-ipa-byz}} is not obsolete. It is one of perhaps five templates which are still used by {{grc-ipa-rows}}. However, all the entries in Category:Ancient Greek IPA tokens can be deleted. I have no idea what {{grc-ipa-cla-acute}} was meant for. I suspect it was an approach which Gilgamesh tried and later abandoned. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 21:33, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

My mistake, I misunderstood you. I've added all the templates you mentioned to the RfD. ObsequiousNewt (ἔβαζα|ἐτλέλεσα) 21:45, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Someday. Someday I shall lua-cize the Greek pronunciation template. --kc_kennylau (talk) 00:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

It's already been done. See {{grc-pron}}. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:44, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

So when does that become the standard? ObsequiousNewt (ἔβαζα|ἐτλέλεσα) 02:25, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I suppose it becomes the standard when everyone who writes Ancient Greek entries uses it. I've been using it on all my new entries, and Fsojic has started to as well. I posted a note on the talk page of WT:AGRC, which I assume most grc editors have on their watchlist. I'm hoping that editors will eventually be won over by its ease of use, correct treatment of syllables and accents, and other advantages. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 02:44, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

All deleted. — Keφr 12:47, 25 October 2014 (UTC)