Thesaurus talk:unattractive person

Merge

This obviously needs to be merged to Thesaurus:ugly person. There's no daylight between these two ideas worth noting. — LlywelynII 19:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@LlywelynII: Yes. Do you also think we should add “fat people hate” terms like obeast, hamplanet etc. to the same page, in a section? (Given also that we have Thesaurus:strapping, about the opposite.) I have long wondered where to collect them and now I see that page … Fay Freak (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@Fay Freak: Heya. I know that plenty of people would view fat people as ugly but those are distinct ideas and not every culture is antichub. We also have Thesaurus:fat person and Thesaurus:fat (obese). It'd just have the main term as a see also at Thesaurus:ugly person, if anything. There may be some terms that deserve mention on both lists, but I would think it would need to be clearly about a combo of ugly and fat, not just one or the other.

On the other hand, I don't see any important difference betwen "unattractive" and "ugly" except a minute amount of degree that isn't worth distinguishing, since the terms aren't always so clearly marked. — LlywelynII 19:36, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Ah true, there are whole fat cultures, however some of the terms for obese people are specifically coined to be disparaging, so we deffo can add one as hyponym to link to the Thesaurus:fat person. Fay Freak (talk) 19:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@LlywelynII: They wanted to distinguish that “ugly person” contains “stronger” terms and here is an analogous case: What is the bumbaclat difference between Thesaurus:overweight and Thesaurus:obese, save by degree?

To illustrate, by perspective the meaning will also very much differ. As we believe the ominous bodybuilder G-Shred, also known as Mr. “Laser Eyes”, 90%+ of people in North America and 80%+ in the EU will turn out overweight, which is also true in so far as them man measure obesity in the United States etc. with body mass index but this is inadequate since the BMI measure only has a sensitivity of 50% in males and 70% females so you see how skewed the attempt to make a distinction is, and I am objectively right that one puts lipstick on the pig 😄. Our lexicographic treatment of fat is not “cutting edge”, so to say, and people are stuck in various decades, suffering a meaning shift differently. Fay Freak (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

@Fay Freak: Yep. Those should be merged too. Even though obese is technically a specific medical term, none of the synonyms are going to be similarly precise. — LlywelynII 20:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)